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S7 final Geekbench 3 numbers just revealed. Interesting numbers from the Snapdragon 820 version. Added the S6 Edge+ variant for additional comparison.

Geekbench Single core:
IPhone 6S+: 2537
S7: 2282

S6 Edge+: 1490 (Exynos chipset)

Geekbench Multicore:
S7: 4979
Iphone 6S+: 4413

S6 Edge+: 5158 (Exynos chipset)

Apple has always focused on the single-core performance since it is the most important one when it comes to interacting with the iOS UI and tests showed that the 64-bit Twister core is the best and fastest CPU core on the market... Even against the new S7! But it looks like Qualcomm has decided that single core performance is also important and has bumped up this area significantly! Should make the Antutu benchmark score quite scary!
 
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The snapdragon multi score is worse than my gs6 on official stock latest Verizon firmware.

I get 5200 multi
 

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The snapdragon multi score is worse than my gs6 on official stock latest Verizon firmware.

I get 5200 multi
Yes, as I mentioned above, Qualcomm looks to have emphasised single core efficiency on the big.LITTLE chip design, so that Android is both more power efficient and employs a smoother UI. Also, you need to realize that not many apps on Android utilize multi-threading (or if they do, they don't do it efficiently). Take a look at some high profile apps and games and you can see what I mean:
(Data provided from the following source; http://www.androidauthority.com/fact-or-fiction-android-apps-only-use-one-cpu-core-610352/)
  • Gmail – On a quad-core phone the core usage was evenly split between 2 and 4 cores. However average core utilization never went above 50% which is to be expected as this is a relatively light app. On an octa-core processor the core usage bounced between 4 and 8 cores, but with a much lower average core utilization of less than 35%.
  • YouTube – On a quad-core phone only 2 cores were used, and on average at less than 50% utilization. On an octa-core phone YouTube mainly used 4 cores with the occasional spike to 6, and drop to 3. However the average core utilization was just 30%. Interestingly the scheduler heavily favored the big cores and the LITTLE cores were hardly used.
  • Riptide GP2 – On a phone with a quad-core Qualcomm processor this game used two cores most of the time with the other two cores doing very little. However on an phone with an octa-core processor, between six and seven cores where used consistently, however most of the work was done by just three of those cores.
  • Templerun 2 – This game probably exhibits the single-threaded problem more than the other apps I tested. On an octa-core phone the game used between 4 and 5 cores consistently and peaked at 7 cores. However really only one core was doing all the hard work. On a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 phone, two cores shared the work fairly evenly, and two cores did very little.
Just because a phone has 8 cores, doesn't mean an app or game is going to use them or take advantage of multiple cores. Single core processing speed is still key for many applications and should enhance the user experience. Multicore takes a minor hit, but it is unlikely to even be noticeable.
 

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Yes, as I mentioned above, Qualcomm looks to have emphasised single core efficiency on the big.LITTLE chip design, so that Android is both more power efficient and employs a smoother UI. Also, you need to realize that not many apps on Android utilize multi-threading (or if they do, they don't do it efficiently). Take a look at some high profile apps and games and you can see what I mean:
(Data provided from the following source; http://www.androidauthority.com/fact-or-fiction-android-apps-only-use-one-cpu-core-610352/)
  • Gmail – On a quad-core phone the core usage was evenly split between 2 and 4 cores. However average core utilization never went above 50% which is to be expected as this is a relatively light app. On an octa-core processor the core usage bounced between 4 and 8 cores, but with a much lower average core utilization of less than 35%.
  • YouTube – On a quad-core phone only 2 cores were used, and on average at less than 50% utilization. On an octa-core phone YouTube mainly used 4 cores with the occasional spike to 6, and drop to 3. However the average core utilization was just 30%. Interestingly the scheduler heavily favored the big cores and the LITTLE cores were hardly used.
  • Riptide GP2 – On a phone with a quad-core Qualcomm processor this game used two cores most of the time with the other two cores doing very little. However on an phone with an octa-core processor, between six and seven cores where used consistently, however most of the work was done by just three of those cores.
  • Templerun 2 – This game probably exhibits the single-threaded problem more than the other apps I tested. On an octa-core phone the game used between 4 and 5 cores consistently and peaked at 7 cores. However really only one core was doing all the hard work. On a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 phone, two cores shared the work fairly evenly, and two cores did very little.
Just because a phone has 8 cores, doesn't mean an app or game is going to use them or take advantage of multiple cores. Single core processing speed is still key for many applications and should enhance the user experience. Multicore takes a minor hit, but it is unlikely to even be noticeable.

The new exynos 8890 is breaking 2200 single core and 7500 multi from leaked benches

Big little is supposed to spread tasks as load goes up and of course gmail don't need 8 cores but if you need the grunt its there when needed.

Looks like snapdragon failed again going quad core and not matching the next gen exynos
 

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That's impressive improvement for the 820. I think they understand single core performance is important. I'm sure people were expecting the 820 to bench significantly better than the a9 but really they're both beasts.

Idk if the a10 will be a marked improvement. I can see just a minor bump for the 7.
 

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The new exynos 8890 is breaking 2200 single core and 7500 multi from leaked benches

Big little is supposed to spread tasks as load goes up and of course gmail don't need 8 cores but if you need the grunt its there when needed.

Looks like snapdragon failed again going quad core and not matching the next gen exynos
The problem is, apps aren't taking advantage of the big.LITTLE design. Likely because devs have to build apps for the lowest common denominator phone (some still using dual core chips!) and therefore aren't utilizing the horsepower. So, you may get a benchmark of 7500 in the multi-core portion, but it turns out to be pretty useless. Single core is more important at this point in time. Won't always be like that, but for now, I think it is good that Qualcomm is concentrating on it.
 

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That's impressive improvement for the 820. I think they understand single core performance is important. I'm sure people were expecting the 820 to bench significantly better than the a9 but really they're both beasts.

Idk if the a10 will be a marked improvement. I can see just a minor bump for the 7.

I would wait for the phone to be officially tested as that could be early development firmware it was tested with. It is good to see its single core performance getting a huge boost finally though.
Rumours suggest the next exynos apparently is wiping the floor in benchmarks, so we will have to see what level of performance it ends up at.
 
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The problem is, apps aren't taking advantage of the big.LITTLE design. Likely because devs have to build apps for the lowest common denominator phone (some still using dual core chips!) and therefore aren't utilizing the horsepower. So, you may get a benchmark of 7500 in the multi-core portion, but it turns out to be pretty useless. Single core is more important at this point in time. Won't always be like that, but for now, I think it is good that Qualcomm is concentrating on it.

But the exynos is also hitting 2200+ single core too!

Android spreads the tasks as load builds and depending on how aggressive the scheduler and how much wasted battery they want to burn running more cores is up to how the oem configures the kernel.

If all 8 cores were always used on small tasks like gmail your battery would suffer big time.the whole point of big little is to always give you the best performance when needed and to get max efficiency out of 8 cores
 

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Has this been confirmed?



Not sure if confirmed, but I seen this in multiple blogs.

http://www.techgrapple.com/galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-with-snapdragon-820-and-exynos-8890/


Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge with Exynos 8890 Chip
T-Mobile – SM-G935T and SM-G930T

AT&T – SM-G935A and SM-G930A

Canada – SM-G935W8 and SM-G930W8

Korean versions – SM-G935 S/K/L and SM-G930 S/K/L

International unlocked – SM-G935F and SM-G930F

Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge with Snapdragon 820 Chip
US Cellular – SM-G935R4 and SM-G930R4

Sprint – SM-G935P and SM-G930P

Verizon – SM-G935V and SM-G930V

China – SM-G9350 and SM-G9300
 
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Canada and US typically get the same chipset. It's been confirmed that Canada is getting the Exynos.
 

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I wonder if we are going to see differences in battery due to the modem again, like how we saw verizon s6 w/ qualcomm modem had better battery life, at least at the release of the s6

obviously samsung has updated the modem with this exynos, we shall see!

if beggers could be choosers i would pick exynos with qualcomm modem :p

looks like samsung is going qualcomm for the processor too this time around for cdma, so Id wager all exynos will have the shannon modem

Get ready to see plenty of Verizon vs GSM edition s7 posts
 
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I wonder if we are going to see differences in battery due to the modem again, like how we saw verizon s6 w/ qualcomm modem had better battery life, at least at the release of the s6

obviously samsung has updated the modem with this exynos, we shall see!

if beggers could be choosers i would pick exynos with qualcomm modem :p

looks like samsung is going qualcomm for the processor too this time around for cdma, so Id wager all exynos will have the shannon modem

Get ready to see plenty of Verizon vs GSM edition s7 posts

I'm hoping T-Mobile version will work on Verizon bands.I will leave Verizon if the exynos performs better
 
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