iPhone 8/Plus iPhone 8/8 Plus RAM Issues

[Sparky2012]

There are definite RAM issues with this phone. It’s been shown off in videos between iPhone 7 Plus vs the 8 Plus, and I’ve put up with it hoping for iOS 11 updates to fix it but that’s not happened.

It really is annoying to have 3 or 4 apps opened, go back to the first app, and it reloads and you lose where you were. I’ve never had RAM issues as bad as this on previous iPhone models (even 1GB RAM devices). It needs fixed.

Other than this issue the phone is fantastic.

Anyone else having this experience?

 

[macher]

There are definite RAM issues with this phone. It’s been shown off in videos between iPhone 7 Plus vs the 8 Plus, and I’ve put up with it hoping for iOS 11 updates to fix it but that’s not happened.

It really is annoying to have 3 or 4 apps opened, go back to the first app, and it reloads and you lose where you were. I’ve never had RAM issues as bad as this on previous iPhone models (even 1GB RAM devices). It needs fixed.

Anyone else having this experience?

It happens on iOS in general. I have a Pixel 2 and that’s what I like about that OS.

 

[Sparky2012]

It happens on iOS in general. I have a Pixel 2 and that’s what I like about that OS.

Maybe so, but it seems worse on the new devices, at least compared to the 6s and 7 series.

 

[california_kid]

There are many threads on this but as far as I can tell on iOS, any app that requires authentication and/or data refresh will "reload" even though the app itself is still in RAM. I would not want my background apps to continue refreshing data and login in the back ground to kill my battery life and increase my data usage. That's just a matter of personal preference. I see no reload for apps that don't dynamically change content like Garage Band and Monopoly. Those open instantly once stored in RAM.

 

[Sparky2012]

There are many threads on this but as far as I can tell on iOS, any app that requires authentication and/or data refresh will "reload" even though the app itself is still in RAM. I would not want my background apps to continue refreshing data and login in the back ground to kill my battery life and increase my data usage. That's just a matter of personal preference. I see no reload for apps that don't dynamically change content like Garage Band and Monopoly. Those open instantly once stored in RAM.

If that’s the case and it’s intentional, it sucks. Not the first time I’ve been on a webpage on a social media app such as Twitter, and went to a messaging app to reply to someone, went back to the Twitter app and the webpage I was viewing is gone.

 

[macher]

If that’s the case and it’s intentional, it sucks. Not the first time I’ve been on a webpage on a social media app such as Twitter, and went to a messaging app to reply to someone, went back to the Twitter app and the webpage I was viewing is gone.

It’s an iOS thing and you don’t have a choice. And I agree it’s annoying as heck. With my Pixel 2 pure vanilla Android it doesn’t do that. It does eat battery if I don’t kill the app but at least I have a choice. But apps on iOS are so much more polished. On iOS YouTube does that a lot too.

 

[Sparky2012]

It’s an iOS thing and you don’t have a choice. And I agree it’s annoying as heck. With my Pixel 2 pure vanilla Android it doesn’t do that. It does eat battery if I don’t kill the app but at least I have a choice. But apps on iOS are so much more polished.

But that’s the thing, it never used to be like this, at least in my experience. Maybe they’ve made it more aggressive to stop apps eating resources behind the scenes? If so, way too aggressive.
I know 1GB RAM devices started having issues reloading stuff a year or two ago, but that was hardware limitations.

True, apps are more polished but Android has things going for it too so each OS has its own benefits and drawbacks I guess.

Am tempted to get an Android phone as a secondary phone just for a change of OS. Been on iOS since 2009.

 

[macher]

But that’s the thing, it never used to be like this, at least in my experience. Maybe they’ve made it more aggressive to stop apps eating resources behind the scenes? If so, way too aggressive.
I know 1GB RAM devices started having issues reloading stuff a year or two ago, but that was hardware limitations.

I believe they made it more aggressive. You see Android gives you choices and people think Android sucks compared to iOS. The thing is apps running in the background will eat battery but most of the masses don’t know what killing an app is and therefore say there battery life stinks. I’m assuming Apple knows this and makes it so it doesn’t happen. That’s my opinion. I actually like pure vanilla Android on the Pixel 2 as much as iOS but it’s the ecosystem that keeps me with iOS.

I hate when I’m watching a YouTube video and get a text and after I’m done go back to the video and YouTube completely loads up on its home page. I then have to go to history to find the video and when I watch it again have to figure out where it left off because it will start from the beginning.

 

[Sparky2012]

I believe they made it more aggressive. You see Android gives you choices and people think Android sucks compared to iOS. The thing is apps running in the background will eat battery but most of the masses don’t know what killing an app is and therefore say there battery life stinks. I’m assuming Apple knows this and makes it so it doesn’t happen. That’s my opinion. I actually like pure vanilla Android on the Pixel 2 as much as iOS but it’s the ecosystem that keeps me with iOS.

You may be right. If that is what they done, it still hasn’t helped going by how many battery issues I’ve seen people have with the update to iOS 11.

Yeah, the ecosystem is a huge thing to me too. Have an iPad and a Mac and so I like the continuity features like phone calling and texting on those devices. Also, another reason is the iTunes Store and App Store, which are better than Google Play imo.

 

[macher]

You may be right. If that is what they done, it still hasn’t helped going by how many battery issues I’ve seen people have with the update to iOS 11.

Yeah, the ecosystem is a huge thing to me too. Have an iPad and a Mac and so I like the continuity features like phone calling and texting on those devices. Also, another reason is the iTunes Store and App Store, which are better than Google Play imo.

I hate when I’m watching a YouTube video and get a text and after I’m done go back to the video and YouTube completely loads up on its home page. I then have to go to history to find the video and when I watch it again have to figure out where it left off because it will start from the beginning. Doesn’t happen 100% of the time but it happens enough where it’s VERY annoying.

Edit: just happened now. Was watching a video and went to post the above. YouTube completely reloaded to home page and lost the video.

 

[Sparky2012]

I hate when I’m watching a YouTube video and get a text and after I’m done go back to the video and YouTube completely loads up on its home page. I then have to go to history to find the video and when I watch it again have to figure out where it left off because it will start from the beginning. Doesn’t happen 100% of the time but it happens enough where it’s VERY annoying.

Edit: just happened now. Was watching a video and went to post the above. YouTube completely reloaded to home page and lost the video.

Happened to me plenty too. Really gets annoying after a while. Last year when I had the iPhone 7 I didn't have these RAM issues, so it's either iOS 11 or the new phones for some reason.

 

[macher]

Happened to me plenty too. Really gets annoying after a while. Last year when I had the iPhone 7 I didn't have these RAM issues, so it's either iOS 11 or the new phones for some reason.

Could be I’m having this issue on an iPhone 7 running latest iOS 11. I do remember this issue has happened to me before iOS 11.

 

[dazz87]

But but but Ram is useless in iOS tho.

 

[Sparky2012]

But but but Ram is useless in iOS tho.

No one said it was useless, more like less was needed on iOS over Android years ago due to the great optimisation of iOS over a small-ish amount of devices. I think the days of iOS being well optimised have passed, at least in my opinion. Yes, some things are better still, but both OS are great.

 

[macher]

No one said it was useless, more like less was needed on iOS over Android years ago due to the great optimisation of iOS over a small-ish amount of devices. I think the days of iOS being well optimised have passed, at least in my opinion. Yes, some things are better still, but both OS are great.

They don’t do it cause like I said most of the population won’t know to kill apps and will have a sh*t load of apps on and then start complaining the iPhone battery sucks. Apple sort of cheats in a way if that makes sense cause it’s pretty much on auto pilot.

 

[macher]

No one said it was useless, more like less was needed on iOS over Android years ago due to the great optimisation of iOS over a small-ish amount of devices. I think the days of iOS being well optimised have passed, at least in my opinion. Yes, some things are better still, but both OS are great.

It’s well ‘optimized’ in the apps not running in the background sense cause it’s almost on auto pilot that they don’t run in the background for the most part. So in reality it’s not that it’s ‘optimized’ in that sense. If that makes sense.

I’m glad you brought this up cause it bugs the heck out of me. Most people who I bring this up too think I’m crazy and think ‘that’s the way it is’.

 

[Sparky2012]

It’s well ‘optimized’ in the apps not running in the background sense cause it’s almost on auto pilot that they don’t run in the background for the most part. So in reality it’s not that it’s ‘optimized’ in that sense. If that makes sense.

Makes sense (I think I understand at least), but I disagree because back then the hardware was worse and so developers and Apple needed to optimise everything to run well, and the amount of OS functions and API's were much smaller. Now, as the OS has opened up more, along with new features and much better hardware, less optimisation is needed (at least in the minds of developers imo) and so them taking advantage of the new elements of the latest OS's causes their app to balloon in resources needed (mostly RAM and battery) and so other apps suffer, which could lead to Apple -as we spoke about earlier here- aggressively managing resources.

 

[mecoolai]

The problem is RAM optimization in iOS 11. If you look at RAM management in those speed test videos on iOS 10 (esp using 10.3.3), you will notice that the iPhones were able to keep all programs with no issues. Its probably because iOS 11 is new and needs app refinements

 

[macher]

The problem is RAM optimization in iOS 11. If you look at RAM management in those speed test videos on iOS 10 (esp using 10.3.3), you will notice that the iPhones were able to keep all programs with no issues. Its probably because iOS 11 is new and needs app refinements

But I’m pretty sure this happened to me on iOS 10. Not as much but it happened.

 

[Sparky2012]

The problem is RAM optimization in iOS 11. If you look at RAM management in those speed test videos on iOS 10 (esp using 10.3.3), you will notice that the iPhones were able to keep all programs with no issues. Its probably because iOS 11 is new and needs app refinements

Most likely is this, but this video shows otherwise. Both devices are on iOS 11 but yet the 7 Plus does better.

 

[macher]

Makes sense (I think I understand at least), but I disagree because back then the hardware was worse and so developers and Apple needed to optimise everything to run well, and the amount of OS functions and API's were much smaller. Now, as the OS has opened up more, along with new features and much better hardware, less optimisation is needed (at least in the minds of developers imo) and so them taking advantage of the new elements of the latest OS's causes their app to balloon in resources needed (mostly RAM and battery) and so other apps suffer, which could lead to Apple -as we spoke about earlier here- aggressively managing resources.

Makes more sense.

Ok let’s say twitter has issues with running in the background cause when you go back to it after whatever it ‘doesn’t open up where you left off’. Can this be solved with software updates or is it what’s under the hood?

 

[Sparky2012]

Makes more sense.

Ok let’s say twitter has issues with running in the background cause when you go back to it after whatever it ‘doesn’t open up where you left off’. Can this be solved with software updates or is it what’s under the hood?

I think it's partly both Twitter and iOS. Obviously both are taking resources, so if the OS is more resource hungry it'll take away available RAM for Twitter and other apps thus making Twitter reload. OR, Twitter may just have a bug on iOS 11 where it takes more than normal resources, or isn't optimised. This would mean it takes more resources and so less resources are available for other apps which causes reloads too.

I really think it's software here, and so it can be solved through optimisation. The issue wasn't as bad even last year so I reckon it's probably the OS, and for some reason it runs worse on the same amount of RAM (3GB) for the 8 Plus vs the 7 Plus. Would really like to know why.

 

[macher]

I think it's partly both Twitter and iOS. Obviously both are taking resources, so if the OS is more resource hungry it'll take away available RAM for Twitter and other apps thus making Twitter reload. OR, Twitter may just have a bug on iOS 11 where it takes more than normal resources, or isn't optimised. This would mean it takes more resources and so less resources are available for other apps which causes reloads too.

I really think it's software here, and so it can be solved through optimisation. The issue wasn't as bad even last year so I reckon it's probably the OS, and for some reason it runs worse on the same amount of RAM (3GB) for the 8 Plus vs the 7 Plus. Would really like to know why.

Hopefully it’s not hardware related. Like the processor needing more ram. The 7 has a different processor.