Well the 8+ scores at DXOMARK are impressive (94 in moblie category) but in the real world, how much detail can a 1/3” sensor resolve? How good can it be for enthusiast photog’s?
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iPhone 8 Plus Camera sensor
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I wonder how images will look when you print them. I'm not impressed with phone images on print. They look nice on a 4in screen and maybe on the web, but that's it. I shot employee pics for badges which were 1x1 images.
I will still use a DSLR cause I want huge azz pics lol
I will still use a DSLR cause I want huge azz pics lol
I have created three threads illustrating various aspects of the inbuilt camera apps abilities and shortcomings.
The end result for me, is that I won't use the inbuilt camera app at all! It just isn't accurate enough in regards to focus or exposure for me. The inbuilt camera of the 8 plus is quite amazing when used with a third party app that can save in RAW format, however. I use the app called PureShot, which is surprisingly still only a few buck$ in cost, considering all the manual controls that it allows you to take over from the camera of the 8 plus.
The end result for me, is that I won't use the inbuilt camera app at all! It just isn't accurate enough in regards to focus or exposure for me. The inbuilt camera of the 8 plus is quite amazing when used with a third party app that can save in RAW format, however. I use the app called PureShot, which is surprisingly still only a few buck$ in cost, considering all the manual controls that it allows you to take over from the camera of the 8 plus.
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Thanks for sharing this content. I wasn’t even aware that an app can enable you to generate a raw image file. Your conclusion makes sense. I’ll stick with my pocket PNS (the LX100) when i dont want to bring lenses. Thanks!
I just printed a 10x15 image from the iPhone 8 on my Epson P800. It's surprisingly good as long as you have plenty of light for a low ISO setting. Obviously it's not as sharp as my Canon L glass but impressive for such a small sensor and lens.
I recently had some 16x24" prints from a Micro Four Thirds camera and Canon 5DIV with TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II next to each other in a gallery. You would've been really hard pressed to tell which were which. We've reached the point with technology where pretty much anything in the last five years will deliver if you do your part unless you're doing something really exotic.
I recently had some 16x24" prints from a Micro Four Thirds camera and Canon 5DIV with TS-E 24mm f/3.5L II next to each other in a gallery. You would've been really hard pressed to tell which were which. We've reached the point with technology where pretty much anything in the last five years will deliver if you do your part unless you're doing something really exotic.
Just out of interest, Nathan, was the image you printed saved as a jpeg in camera? I printed an image in colour which was saved as a jpeg in camera from the 8 plus at A3+ size and I was quite astounded at its quality!
The previous ones were 1/3" the latest are 1/2.8", so it is larger, even if not by an absolutely huge amount. I have noticed it handles the shadows a lot better, with a lot less noise now!
Apple don't actually publicise the size of their sensors, or that their phones can shoot RAW format either!
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Allways thouhgt that 7 had 1/3” based on internet specs everywhere, for example, http://m.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_7_plus-8065.php
P.S. 1/3” is smaller than 1/2.8”... a bit confused here...
P.S. 1/3” is smaller than 1/2.8”... a bit confused here...
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Just realised I made a typo above, have corrected it now.
I was really confused about that too, until I read somewhere that 1/2.5" is equal to 1/4" or .25" or a quarter inch.
Just use metric already!
Yes, it was a JPEG straight from the phone. Glad I’m not the only person left feeling impressed.
With regards to the sensor:
Tehcinsights: “The wide-angle Sony CIS has a die size of 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2). This compares to a 32.3 mm2 die size for iPhone 7’s wide-angle CIS.”
There are some X ray pictures as well.
http://techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/
Tehcinsights: “The wide-angle Sony CIS has a die size of 6.29 mm x 5.21 mm (32.8 mm2). This compares to a 32.3 mm2 die size for iPhone 7’s wide-angle CIS.”
There are some X ray pictures as well.
http://techinsights.com/about-techinsights/overview/blog/apple-iphone-8-teardown/
It depends on the nature of the shot and the viewing distance to the printed image.
Here are some charts: https://iphonephotographyschool.com/print-iphone-photos/
Of course, even if your printed DPI matches the image's pixels 1:1 you've still got to consider quality of lens, factors like noise, content, range, color and every other parameter that goes into making a photo. And from how far away your're viewing it, since what works on a far wall might not on magazine cover. But the results can be indistinguishable in the real world. I won a projected image competition once and didn't even realize till afterward it was an iPhone 7 shot.
And even for pixel peepers it can do pretty well, https://petapixel.com/2016/10/05/iphone-7-vs-leica-m9-p-side-side-photo-comparison/