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Has anyone else had issues with the front facing camera on the iPhone 8 Plus?


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Jessica@AngryApple

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I just FINALLY got off the chatting system with Apple Support. That was a waste of 2 hours of my life that I will never get back. My boyfriend bought me the iPhone 8 Plus on Thursday, December 21st. Everything seemed on the up and up... the Live Photo’s were awesome. That was until the evening of Thursday, January 4th... exactly 14 days since the purchase of the phone. My boyfriend and I went to take a selfie and the camera would not flip around. This had never happened before so I power reset the phone hoping that this would correct the problem, nope! Then I proceeded to erase all the settings, “maybe I pushed something wrong...” I thought, nope! Then I erased my entire phone and all it’s newley added content as a “fingers-crossed, last resort”, again nope! I spent that whole evening messing around with that phone trying to get it to work which it never did. I even went online to try to schedule an appointment at the Genius Bar with no luck at any Apple store around me. There was zero availability for all the listed dates. What a waste?! The next day, Friday, January 5th at 12:07pm, I called the Apple store in Rancho Cucamonga trying to set up an appointment. The gal said she could run a diagnostics report from my home that I thought was pretty cool and her analysis was in fact that the front facing camera kept failing the tests. She said not to worry about coming in that she would send me a new phone blah blah blah I had been on the phone with her for 48 minutes before we concluded everything, or so I thought it was concluded. On Sunday, January 7th I received an empty box which raised my eyebrow... “maybe the phone is still on its way,” I thought to myself cause why in the world would I want to be inconvenienced by sending in this phone and having to go without...? I didn’t have time to deal with all this BS again until Tuesday, January 9th. I began my first chat with someone at 7:20pm and wasted another 36 minutes of my life. I wanted to confirm that in fact, a phone was on its way to me since per policy, I would only have ten days to send back my old phone. She explained to me that a regular repair had been issued for my phone, that no phone was on its way to me (now fuming) but that she could cancel that and we could do an Express. Then we got disconnected... awesome right?! More so fuming now... I reconnect with someone else now again I have to explain the situation cause I LOVE repeating myself... She tells me that a hold of $799 would be placed on a credit card of mine in order to do this Express process... Why the hell am I being inconvenienced?! This was a brand new phone that I got for Christmas. I shouldn’t have had ANY issues with a brand new phone and now I’m being asked to put $799 on hold on my credit card, like Christmas didn’t just happen. Needless to say I was and am currently not happy about the entire situation. Enter the “Senior Advisor” ooooohhhhhhh ahhhhhh nope! He was nothing more than a glorified parrot, repeating what that gal had already told me... More time wasted. However he did mention that he could waive the $29 fee for the Express Process. This was the first time this fee was even mentioned but glad to know he would waive this hidden fee. So now I sit with not $799 but $888.49 including tax on hold on my credit card for a phone that should have been working properly to begin with. This whole process has been painful but I am past the measly 14 day return window that both Verizon and Apple have as their so called policy. I think that Apple should stand behind their products and honor returns when their products are deemed ineffective or malfunction... it shouldn’t be that there is this HUGE difference between 14 and 15, 17, 19 days... Really?! We as customers pay LOTS of money for these products so the least you can do as a Multi-Billion dollar corporation is stand behind your products and respect your customers.
 

Vermifuge

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This is all pretty normal. Apple isn't just going to send a phone without some sort of collateral. Mind you it is just a hold on the CC and not a charge. Unless you are doing a debit card. There is no actually charge to the CC so nothing to pay and no "inconvenience."

Normally Apple will overnight you a box which is over noted back to them at which point they will overnight the fixed or replacement phone. It's a pretty simple and strait forward process. I was impressed the last time i had to deal with it. Luckily lemons are few and far between with Apple products.

Frankly, you should have just returned it and got a new one within the 15 day window. But hind site is 20/20. live and learn, right?
 

Jessica@AngryApple

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Jan 9, 2018
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This is all pretty normal. Apple isn't just going to send a phone without some sort of collateral. Mind you it is just a hold on the CC and not a charge. Unless you are doing a debit card. There is no actually charge to the CC so nothing to pay and no "inconvenience."

Normally Apple will overnight you a box which is over noted back to them at which point they will overnight the fixed or replacement phone. It's a pretty simple and strait forward process. I was impressed the last time i had to deal with it. Luckily lemons are few and far between with Apple products.

Frankly, you should have just returned it and got a new one within the 15 day window. But hind site is 20/20. live and learn, right?


I hear what your saying but this was a brand new phone... there shouldn’t have been any issues with it. It should have been perfect you know what I mean...? Now here I am with this inconvenience... I don’t even want the stupid phone anymore I would rather go back to my old phone lol
 

Starship67

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I hear what your saying but this was a brand new phone... there shouldn’t have been any issues with it. It should have been perfect you know what I mean...? Now here I am with this inconvenience... I don’t even want the stupid phone anymore I would rather go back to my old phone lol

So sell it and go back to your old phone then.
 

Vermifuge

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I hear what your saying but this was a brand new phone... there shouldn’t have been any issues with it. It should have been perfect you know what I mean...? Now here I am with this inconvenience... I don’t even want the stupid phone anymore I would rather go back to my old phone lol

Should, but these things happen. Make a few million of anything and there is bound to be a special one in the bunch.
 
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Jessica@AngryApple

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Jan 9, 2018
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So sell it and go back to your old phone then.

Thanks for your opinion but I was responding to someone else. It’s a matter of inconvenience which, you were not in my situation so you don’t understand and that’s fine... goodnight.
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Should, but these things happen. Make a few million of anything and there are is to be a special one in the bunch.

LoL! Yeah I get it...
 

Solomani

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I hear what your saying but this was a brand new phone... there shouldn’t have been any issues with it. It should have been perfect you know what I mean...? Now here I am with this inconvenience... I don’t even want the stupid phone anymore I would rather go back to my old phone lol

Even with Apple iPhones, occasionally someone buys a brand new phone that's a lemon. It's not common, but we know it happens. Either shipping it back, or even trading it in person (if you are near an Apple Store) and they usually help you replace it right away. Good luck!

P.S. and as the poster above stated, you actually wont be double-charged for a "replacement unit". A hold charge is just a pending charge, usually dropped when the swap is a done deal. Yes, its inconvenient, but after many years of buying various Apple products, I've had at least one (actually only one) defective device out of the box.
 

Jessica@AngryApple

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Jan 9, 2018
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Even with Apple iPhones, occasionally someone buys a brand new phone that's a lemon. It's not common, but we know it happens. Either shipping it back, or even trading it in person (if you are near an Apple Store) and they usually help you replace it right away. Good luck!

P.S. and as the poster above stated, you actually wont be double-charged for a "replacement unit". A hold charge is just a pending charge, usually dropped when the swap is a done deal. Yes, its inconvenient, but after many years of buying various Apple products, I've had at least one (actually only one) defective device out of the box.

Thank you for that :)
 

JediZenMaster

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Sorry this happened but sending expensive hardware is a liability and they need to ensure they get their device back.

As long as you send it back the hold will come off your card. Other option would be to go thru your carriers insurance or warranty exchange.
 

Jessica@AngryApple

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Jan 9, 2018
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Sorry this happened but sending expensive hardware is a liability and they need to ensure they get their device back.

As long as you send it back the hold will come off your card. Other option would be to go thru your carriers insurance or warranty exchange.

I appreciate all the constructive feedback... I actually feel a lot better after venting about my situation and reading the input of others...
 

Solomani

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In the future, if you are anywhere close to an Apple Store, is to always make an appointment and bring your (problem) device to the Store. Almost always they will get it fixed or replaced, usually the same day. When you go through phone tech support, your problems are often mis-understood, and you might get the runaround.

My first iPhone a few years back, it was barely still under warranty. The TouchID button stopped working, but maybe I accidentally hard-dropped it the night before. So I brought it in to my local Apple Store. They looked at it. They told me to go and shop at the Mall for a couple hours while they diagnose it. I came back after 2 hours. The Apple Store rep told me they couldn't figure out why my iPhone home button just suddenly stopped working. And he said the phone doesn't have any physical cracks or damage or signs of abuse. So he simply said, "Tell you what, we'll just replace it with a brand new iPhone, same model, same color and configuration. Here you go, I have the brand new box right here. Just sign this agreement (actually sign on the iPad) and we're done."
 
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Express replacements will always require a hold. No way around that. Even the person you called the parrot can’t avoid charging. Only way to avoid that is wait for a Genius Bar appointment and go in.

Which is what I would do, is make a genius appointment and they can replace it right there if they deem it necessary. Some times it's better to talk to representatives in person, as things are expedited quickly versus talking to a representative on the phone where doesn't lead very far.
 

JPiper

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Mar 2, 2009
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I've had problems so far with replacement of an iPhone 6s, an iPad Pro, and an Airport Time Capsule. Each of these was replaced with no problem albeit at the Apple store. I don't see how anyone can get better service than that. So what if you're beyond the 14 days? You return and get a new one. What's the problem? The fact that you chose to do this over the phone created the need for a hold on your credit card. Had you gone to the store that wouldn't have been necessary. I also dropped an iPad Air 2 that was about 3 years old. It cracked the glass. They sold me a new one for just over $250, which I thought was very reasonable. It seems they don't both to replace glass anymore. Based on my experiences Apple has first class service.
 
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DevinNj

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It really stinks having a broken phone, I can relate to that, but I don't see what's to "rant" about. You have an issue, they're willing to address it, gave a couple of options, those options just weren't acceptable to you. Apple is really a great company when it comes to taking care of it's customers. Give them a chance, they'll make it right.
 

PBz

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I hear what your saying but this was a brand new phone... there shouldn’t have been any issues with it. It should have been perfect you know what I mean...? Now here I am with this inconvenience... I don’t even want the stupid phone anymore I would rather go back to my old phone lol
No such thing as perfect. Manufacturing defects, even at sub-3% makes for a lot of people who will get a phone that has an issue. Hell, I just had my first iPhone with pixelation on soft reset.. and it died that night. I have setup hundreds of iPhones and iPads and I had never seen that issue.

Your best options are to send the phone in or to go to an Apple Retail Store and argue your case for a replacement. Apple managers can absolutely approve an exchange/replacement outside of 14 days. I just had it done after a month but Apple knew I was working on an issue and I was keeping them updated.

Best bit of advice.. you catch more flies with honey... and Apple appreciates and respects honey.
 

macfacts

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Is there a Cliff Notes version of this rant?

I can help. She had an iPhone that was still within return period but Apple support was jerking her around until the return period was over.

If they told her straight up the fastest way to have a working iphone was to return and rebuy, there would be no problem. Instead she wasted a lot of her personal time dealing with a lemon.
 

zipster

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Hmmmm... I wonder what the replies would've looked like if she hadn't posted with her picture in her avatar.
 
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