iPhone Nano - Apple Would Never

[strangefate]

Develop a product so cheesy. Come on people. Because there's an iPod nano they're going to follow suit with the iPhone? How much could/would they really change to justify such a product? It would end up being a ROKR. I don't even think it's that marketable. With a music device, yes, because people may not need as much capacity, but a stripped down version of the current end-all-be-all of phones (the features it lacks aside, that's what mass-media has deemed it, and myself)? Truth be told, a substantial reason the iPod has been so successful is the name its built for itself -- its similar to a status product in a way, where consumers (particularly younger demographics) would rather be able to say "I have an iPod" than a device that may be cheaper and just as feature-filled. The iPod nano doesn't have less features, it's just more compact and has less storage capacity. Ignore the video capability for a second given that at the inception of the mini/nano it wasn't a feature on the iPod. Not to mention I don't think many people at all take the video features very seriously (sorry, but it's just true -- the size of the screen).

So with this said, could Apple really release a cheaper phone with half the features as the iPhone and have it sell enough to justify production?
An iPhone nano would be a waste. As far as I'm concerned the 4GB iPhone is the iPhone nano.

However, could Apple possibly have another phone model in the future - that wasn't the iPhone 2? Yes. It's not going to be an iPhone nano in the way it has been rumored about and described though. The things I've heard about it and the mock-ups I've seen remind me of the way the iPhone was originally imagined. After it was actually unveiled everyone thought "why did we even pay creedence to all of that, Apple would of course design a much better product". They did look like iPods with keypads on them after all.

edit: these patents people are looking likely have to do with the new ipods or the original designs of the iphone.

 

[speakerwizard]

i think they will, not everyone wants or needs the internet, some people just want a small phone, and ipod features would be a bonus, if apple is serious about the phone industry it needs choice for those who would love an apple phone but not with all the bells and whistles

 

[mobilehavoc]

i think they will, not everyone wants or needs the internet, some people just want a small phone, and ipod features would be a bonus, if apple is serious about the phone industry it needs choice for those who would love an apple phone but not with all the bells and whistles

I agree completely. Not everyone needs or wants to be able to surf the internet on their mobile phone and pay an extra $20/month to do so. However, far more people would love to be able to listen to music, watch videos, take/look at photos and have a small phone. This is the mainstream phone market today as many cellphones offer these exact features.

Given the cost of flash these days I wouldn't be surprised if they came out with an iPhone Nano 2GB and 4GB model...4GB at like $250-$300. This would give people a fully functioning "best iPod ever" with a phone without the need for email/web access.

I think there's a chance it can happen but in the end it's all speculation anyway.

 

[thomasfxlt]

Develop a product so cheesy. Come on people. Because there's an iPod nano they're going to follow suit with the iPhone? How much could/would they really change to justify such a product? It would end up being a ROKR. I don't even think it's that marketable. With a music device, yes, because people may not need as much capacity, but a stripped down version of the current end-all-be-all of phones (the features it lacks aside, that's what mass-media has deemed it, and myself)? Truth be told, a substantial reason the iPod has been so successful is the name its built for itself -- its similar to a status product in a way, where consumers (particularly younger demographics) would rather be able to say "I have an iPod" than a device that may be cheaper and just as feature-filled. The iPod nano doesn't have less features, it's just more compact and has less storage capacity. Ignore the video capability for a second given that at the inception of the mini/nano it wasn't a feature on the iPod. Not to mention I don't think many people at all take the video features very seriously (sorry, but it's just true -- the size of the screen).

So with this said, could Apple really release a cheaper phone with half the features as the iPhone and have it sell enough to justify production?
An iPhone nano would be a waste. As far as I'm concerned the 4GB iPhone is the iPhone nano.

However, could Apple possibly have another phone model in the future - that wasn't the iPhone 2? Yes. It's not going to be an iPhone nano in the way it has been rumored about and described though. The things I've heard about it and the mock-ups I've seen remind me of the way the iPhone was originally imagined. After it was actually unveiled everyone thought "why did we even pay creedence to all of that, Apple would of course design a much better product". They did look like iPods with keypads on them after all.

edit: these patents people are looking likely have to do with the new ipods or the original designs of the iphone.

An inexpensive phone with Apples most in-demand app.....I think at the right price, they'll sell like crazy and Apple will do it because of the secret and obviously lucrative deal they have with ATT on subscription revenue sharing.

 

[GTiPhone]

Develop a product so cheesy. Come on people. Because there's an iPod nano they're going to follow suit with the iPhone? How much could/would they really change to justify such a product? It would end up being a ROKR. I don't even think it's that marketable. With a music device, yes, because people may not need as much capacity, but a stripped down version of the current end-all-be-all of phones (the features it lacks aside, that's what mass-media has deemed it, and myself)? Truth be told, a substantial reason the iPod has been so successful is the name its built for itself -- its similar to a status product in a way, where consumers (particularly younger demographics) would rather be able to say "I have an iPod" than a device that may be cheaper and just as feature-filled. The iPod nano doesn't have less features, it's just more compact and has less storage capacity. Ignore the video capability for a second given that at the inception of the mini/nano it wasn't a feature on the iPod. Not to mention I don't think many people at all take the video features very seriously (sorry, but it's just true -- the size of the screen).

So with this said, could Apple really release a cheaper phone with half the features as the iPhone and have it sell enough to justify production?
An iPhone nano would be a waste. As far as I'm concerned the 4GB iPhone is the iPhone nano.

However, could Apple possibly have another phone model in the future - that wasn't the iPhone 2? Yes. It's not going to be an iPhone nano in the way it has been rumored about and described though. The things I've heard about it and the mock-ups I've seen remind me of the way the iPhone was originally imagined. After it was actually unveiled everyone thought "why did we even pay creedence to all of that, Apple would of course design a much better product". They did look like iPods with keypads on them after all.

edit: these patents people are looking likely have to do with the new ipods or the original designs of the iphone.

You have no clue what you're talking about whatsoever. Not only will there be an iPhone Nano, it will be out soon. Obviously you didn't just register yesterday, you were born then too.

 

[GTiPhone]

Because there's an iPod nano they're going to follow suit with the iPhone?

No, that has never been anyone's rationale for why.

How much could/would they really change to justify such a product? It would end up being a ROKR. I don't even think it's that marketable.

A combination phone/ipod not marketable? I think you've missed out on the last entire year.

Are you even aware of the enormous demographic that is 13-19 year olds that have feature-less cellphones and iPod Nanos? You need to look up some statistics before you rant anymore self-proclaimed expert banter.

With a music device, yes, because people may not need as much capacity, but a stripped down version of the current end-all-be-all of phones (the features it lacks aside, that's what mass-media has deemed it, and myself)?

It is in no way the phone to end all phones, and nobody thinks this. The iPhone IS a revolutionary UI. User Interface. USER INTERFACE...that has been applied to a mini osx mac with a phone app.

The iPod nano doesn't have less features, it's just more compact and has less storage capacity.

Right. I guess we're pretending that video doesn't exist. Cause THEN it makes sense, right?

Not to mention I don't think many people at all take the video features very seriously (sorry, but it's just true -- the size of the screen).

Except every single person who has purchased a video iPod since release. Looks like you need even more numbers before speaking.

So with this said, could Apple really release a cheaper phone with half the features as the iPhone and have it sell enough to justify production?
An iPhone nano would be a waste. As far as I'm concerned the 4GB iPhone is the iPhone nano.

Well you're in for a huge surprise and will soon find out how wrong you are.

 

[Canuck4]

I highly doubt there will be a nano version of this phone.
It would be a waste of time and money.
The touchscreen, internet and other features is what seperates this phone from all the other regural cellphoned that you can get for free with a 2 year contract.
Why would anyone bother with an Iphone nano instead of picking up a Moto razor or something?

 

[Sobe]

just my take:

SMS
email
voice
ichat (if available by then)
ipod

That's it. And if you put them in lollypop colors, every kid from 5-17 will have one on christmas day if you price it right.

People want a cool phone that plays music too. It would sell like nothing we've ever seen. Hell I might even buy one and I have an iPhone.

 

[Canuck4]

Isnt that just like any other phone out there at the moment though?
They all got SMS
email
voice
Instant messenger
MP3 player.
All for under $99 with contract.
I dont know, maybe it would sell but nothing near as popular as the Iphone has become. It would just hang with other regural cells.

 

[Sobe]

there's a lot of mp3 players out there too...how well did the iPod sell?

 

[Canuck4]

True, it should be interesting to see how it plays.
I love my Iphone, I wouldnt go for a water downed version though.

 

[Sobe]

it'll also sell well in families where a parent has an iphone and the kiddies want a new phone.

Just stick em all in on the family plan. Cause you know mom and dad will like seeing what the nano is like too...might even borrow it once in a while =D

 

[devilot]

Why would anyone bother with an Iphone nano instead of picking up a Moto razor or something?

The OS. Period.

My mother works in the high tech industry yet is incapable of operating a simple cell phone. She has never successfully checked her voice mails. The current iPhone? Overkill for her. A possible Nano-type, "bare minimum" featured iPhone? Sounds pretty damned near perfect for folks like her (and believe me, there are plenty of folks who dunno how to operate the simplest features on their cells, doubt I'm all that far behind 'em, too.)

 

[strangefate]

What I was really getting at was that the current concept people have for the iPhone nano -- I don't think Apple's going to do that. Might they release another phone, yes.

I really doubt they'll call it the iPhone nano was well. Isn't that just extremely cheesy?

edit: It couldn't be too expensive or otherwise people would just get the iPhone instead. It can't afford to be too cheap. It's difficult to set a pricepoint for. Very difficult. Unless they can somehow do it for sub $200. It would be smaller, would use a smaller battery, and playing audio destroys battery power. They couldn't put much harddrive space on it (I don't think apple would go SD either). With the limited functionality other than it being a music player and a phone in one, I think someone would rather just have an iPod nano that holds more songs. And which also doesn't require you to charge your phone all the time just to ensure you can make calls all night.

 

[Sobe]

What I was really getting at was that the current concept people have for the iPhone nano -- I don't think Apple's going to do that. Might they release another phone, yes.

I really doubt they'll call it the iPhone nano was well. Isn't that just extremely cheesy?

edit: It couldn't be too expensive or otherwise people would just get the iPhone instead. It can't afford to be too cheap. It's difficult to set a pricepoint for. Very difficult. Unless they can somehow do it for sub $200. It would be smaller, would use a smaller battery, and playing audio destroys battery power. They couldn't put much harddrive space on it (I don't think apple would go SD either). With the limited functionality other than it being a music player and a phone in one, I think someone would rather just have an iPod nano that holds more songs. And which also doesn't require you to charge your phone all the time just to ensure you can make calls all night.

My guess is that it will be right around the price of the most expensive iPods.

$249 for 30 gigs
$349 for 80 gigs

only I doubt the storage space will be anywhere near that high...probably it'll be somewhere near the 4/8 split we have on the iPhone.

Yeah it'll be a little expensive, but there are cheaper mp3 players available and that doesn't stop people from paying more for an iPod.