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I only just saw this old post from gizmodo saying that the iPhone will cost £595-£660 in the UK?!?!?! Thats a joke right? Its bloody $600 in US so it should be around £300 in the uk!
 
I can't see it being £300. Prices always work out more over here than just looking at the exchange rate.
 
And they'll still have problems meeting initial demand at £600, although I suspect that they'll be around the £450-500 mark. Don't know why; just pulling that figure out of thin air.

Anyway, this device in its first incarnation is not for the likes of you and me, but will be carefully marketed at those who can and will afford it, making it even more desirable to those who care about who's using and doing what.

I couldn't care less about the bloody thing, unless like the iPod, it provides another healthy revenue stream for Apple.
 
Yesterday I was in a bit of a rush and my phone flew out of my hand and skidded across my driveway. Reading this made me think about that and the iPhone. How often do people drop mobiles? I'm doing it all the time, especially when I've been drinking.

AppleMatt
 
Yesterday I was in a bit of a rush and my phone flew out of my hand and skidded across my driveway. Reading this made me think about that and the iPhone. How often do people drop mobiles? I'm doing it all the time, especially when I've been drinking.

AppleMatt

Expect a deluge of iPhone cases & protectors from every cheap consumer accessory company, every designer label, and every Chinese rip-off manufacturer when it comes out!
 
Unlikely... the UK consumer expects to upgrade their phone for something between free and £50 with a new contract. I could imagine the phone companies arguing that you're getting an iPod thrown in and demanding a bigger upgrade fee but I can't see it being more than £150 with a contract and that would be at the higher end.

The unlocked non-contrct version... well, they're often silly prices since they know only people who have the cash to and inclination to be phonephiles will get em.
 
Unlikely... the UK consumer expects to upgrade their phone for something between free and £50 with a new contract. I could imagine the phone companies arguing that you're getting an iPod thrown in and demanding a bigger upgrade fee but I can't see it being more than £150 with a contract and that would be at the higher end.

The unlocked non-contrct version... well, they're often silly prices since they know only people who have the cash to and inclination to be phonephiles will get em.

However, if the iPhone is restricted to just one provider (i.e. Orange), then I could see them pretty much holding us to ransom over the prices. Imagine if only one store in the UK sold iPods (and it wasn't possible to import)...just think how much more they'd charge for them!
 
However, if the iPhone is restricted to just one provider (i.e. Orange), then I could see them pretty much holding us to ransom over the prices. Imagine if only one store in the UK sold iPods (and it wasn't possible to import)...just think how much more they'd charge for them!

We.. we would have to buy zunes and samsung phones!
 
Unlikely... the UK consumer expects to upgrade their phone for something between free and £50 with a new contract. I could imagine the phone companies arguing that you're getting an iPod thrown in and demanding a bigger upgrade fee but I can't see it being more than £150 with a contract and that would be at the higher end.

The unlocked non-contrct version... well, they're often silly prices since they know only people who have the cash to and inclination to be phonephiles will get em.

Yeah, this is what I was gonna say. I really don't expect it to be that much, when tied to a contract. And my contract is up for renewal in November, so I'm fairly optimistic I may be able to snag one. :p

Oh and

Yesterday I was in a bit of a rush and my phone flew out of my hand and skidded across my driveway. Reading this made me think about that and the iPhone. How often do people drop mobiles? I'm doing it all the time, especially when I've been drinking.

AppleMatt

I drop my phone all the ****ing time. :p Dunno why, I throw it around a lot more than my iPod for some reason.
 
However, if the iPhone is restricted to just one provider (i.e. Orange), then I could see them pretty much holding us to ransom over the prices. Imagine if only one store in the UK sold iPods (and it wasn't possible to import)...just think how much more they'd charge for them!

Although part of what makes the iPod so popular is the price/performance ratio. If that was skewed too far then I don't think that the iPod would be nearly as prolific as it is today. The iPod hasn't offered anything really new or (r)evolutionary since the clickwheel, however, the iPhone has multitouch, music capabilities that will integrate with the software everyone already has, as well as phone ad internet. It is pretty revolutionary, and I can see people paying a huge premium for it, at least when it first comes out. My prediction is that it will start out like the original RAZR did- at a very high price point- then steadily decline. Although, I do believe after the first few price reductions we will see a more iPod-like approach, with a steady price point and regular upgrades.

Guess we'll just have to wait and see :)
 
My phone is 18 months old, has a 3.2MP camera with 2x optical zoom, mp3 playback, 2.5inch screen, records video, browses internet, has Japanese and English input, has a voicemail function built into the phone so I can see my voicemail - it's saved to the 1GB Mini SD card so I can listen to it for free, at will.

Can anyone guess what it is?

I doubt I will get the iPhone.
 
If you compare Apple's UK prices to the US, they are actually pretty good. I remember not too long ago when the UK price (which included VAT) was actually less than if you got it from the US and added VAT on top.

Although considering £1 is now worth $2, I expect things have got a bit more unfair recently.

For example a lowend MacBook Pro costs $1999US. In UK money that is about £998. Now when you add VAT on that, you get £1173. The UK price is actually £1350 (although you can get it for as low as £1200 if you look around).
 
this would be good...

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it will be cheaper in the uk or it will not sell, we have a much more aggressive mobile market here than the US, people just dont expect to pay for phones, £150 tops with a contract or most will ignore it
 
My phone is 18 months old, has a 3.2MP camera with 2x optical zoom, mp3 playback, 2.5inch screen,


My phones 1.3 Megapixel camera is demonstrably worse that the 0.3 Megapixel iSight, assuming Apple actually use a good 2MP camera in the iPhone and it will be pretty damn good.
 
My phones 1.3 Megapixel camera is demonstrably worse that the 0.3 Megapixel iSight, assuming Apple actually use a good 2MP camera in the iPhone and it will be pretty damn good.

Well, my phone has a CCD not a CMOS and, as such, at 3.2MP is better than the N95 at 5MP. :cool:

I am guessing you have a RZR thing or something similar?

2MP is not enough in a new phone (for 2008) in my opinion. Lack of 3G is the final blow.
 
My phone is 18 months old, has a 3.2MP camera with 2x optical zoom, mp3 playback, 2.5inch screen, records video, browses internet, has Japanese and English input, has a voicemail function built into the phone so I can see my voicemail - it's saved to the 1GB Mini SD card so I can listen to it for free, at will.

Can anyone guess what it is?

Nokia N93 maybe?

AppleSpider said:
Unlikely... the UK consumer expects to upgrade their phone for something between free and £50 with a new contract. I could imagine the phone companies arguing that you're getting an iPod thrown in and demanding a bigger upgrade fee but I can't see it being more than £150 with a contract and that would be at the higher end.

Completely agree, although I think they'll try pushing it on 18-month contracts with reasonably high line-rental at £150, going up or down depending which deal you go for.

The N95 has some pretty crazy prices attached to it at the moment (similar to the above) and I'd see the iPhone in that sort of league, price-wise.
 
Nokia N93 maybe?

I wanted the N93 a while back. This phone isn't made by Nokia.

Apple have to be careful with pricing here in Europe.

I also can't see how they can release a phone that looks anything like this in Japan/Asia...
 
I wanted the N93 a while back. This phone isn't made by Nokia.

I bought an N93 on release (contract free) and build-quality-wise it was the worst phone I've ever seen, so I sent it back after a week.

I've heard really bad things about the N95's slider mechanism too, such as people having to firm them with paperclips and masking tape. :rolleyes:
 
this would be good...

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No.... no it wouldn't. Vodafone is the last company (literally) that I'd want to get its mits on the iPhone. I'm hoping for a sim-free release at the same time, but failing that a release just on Vodafone would mean I wouldn't be getting it until it moves to any other network. They're expensive and they destroy phones with their own crap software and apps.

The unlocked non-contrct version... well, they're often silly prices since they know only people who have the cash to and inclination to be phonephiles will get em.

Hello - that would be me then :eek:
If it's around the £450 mark sim free I'll get it - but only if all features will work with my existing sim. That's the major issue for me...
 
£600ish SIM-free sounds about right, in fact it wouldn't surprise me if it were more seeing as the much over-hyped Nokia N95 is selling on Expansys for £630. The N95 launched at £89.99 on a contract with Orange & O2; more with Vodafone I think (obviously exact prices depend on your call plan). I'm only using the N95 as an example as it's a very recent and quite decently-specced handset and so far the most talked about phone of the year.
 
I'm only using the N95 as an example as it's a very recent and quite decently-specced handset and so far the most talked about phone of the year.

<cough>Prada Phone talked about more only people in IT know about the N95<cough>

;)
 
No.... no it wouldn't. Vodafone is the last company (literally) that I'd want to get its mits on the iPhone. I'm hoping for a sim-free release at the same time, but failing that a release just on Vodafone would mean I wouldn't be getting it until it moves to any other network. They're expensive and they destroy phones with their own crap software and apps.
They also have the most mature, best quality network when the whole of the UK is taken into consideration (local geographic issues aside), the most purchasing power and the best direct retail channel - and if you think Apple is going to let Vodafone cram it with their own applications and turn all the menu's red then I think you're very, very mistaken ;)

iPhone is going to start at the high end. I wouldn't imagine anything about the initial offering, in terms of network and the product itself, will be very cheap. Only time will be able to put a price on the actual worth of iPhone's functionality to consumers.

As dcv says, SIM-Free prices will almost definitely be in excess of £600 initially.
 
They also have the most mature, best quality network when the whole of the UK is taken into consideration (local geographic issues aside)

2/2.5G maybe...

AFAIK Orange were the first network to roll-out EDGE (2.75g) and have better 3G coverage than Vodafone.

My only real gripes with Orange are the customisation of their handsets. I can't see this happening with the iPhone somehow.
 
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