iPhone X iphone X sales not living up to expectations

[Deeds500]

I have been saying since the Keynote that the X is a massive disappointment.

Obviously not everyone agrees with me and people still went out and bought it anyway and are happy with it, and that's fine.

But the bottom line is, for a 10 year special edition iphone, the X failed to deliver on a device worthy of a 10 year anniversary Apple smartphone.

Okay you replaced TID with FID, but why make a biometric system the killer feature on the device when it simply replaced another biometric system. And then to charge ($1500 in Australia) for a device which offered nothing really new, is it any surprise that sales are down?

Link: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/...e-falls-analysts-warn-iphone-x-sales-dropping

Accoring to the link, sales are down and Apple's share price has suffered as a result.

If, as a tech consumer product company, you keep offering very little in terms of innovation yet keep charging more, this is what happens. I don't need to have an MBA to know this, it's common sense and you think Tim Cook would know this too but apparently he doesn't. The only thing Tim Cook knows to do is drive the bus that Steve Jobs built.

Brand loyalty can only get you so far. And with the competition offering more and more innovation, things won't change unless Apple does an about face and gets serious about the iphone again.

If all people wanted was to keep the ecosystem in tact with a solid decvice for 2017, the iphone 8/ 8 Plus would have done the job sublimely. But a 10 year edition device had to be much more than what the X was.

It's not like Apple has not been in the wars before because of stupid decisions it made. Once upon a time Steve Jobs had to come back and rescue it, unfortunately he won't be around a second time if Tim Crook keeps slowing down the innovation and all the while increasing the price.

 

[j800r]

Interesting. Cause from what I heard the X did awesome.

Apple is far from dying. Post is nothing but an overreaction if you ask me.

 

[tonybarnaby]

I have been saying since the Keynote that the X is a massive disappointment.

Obviously not everyone agrees with me and people still went out and bought it anyway and are happy with it, and that's fine.

But the bottom line is, for a 10 year special edition iphone, the X failed to deliver on a device worthy of a 10 year anniversary Apple smartphone.

Okay you replaced TID with FID, but why make a biometric system the killer feature on the device when it simply replaced another biometric system. And then to charge ($1500 in Australia) for a device which offered nothing really new, is it any surprise that sales are down?

Link: https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/...e-falls-analysts-warn-iphone-x-sales-dropping

Accoring to the link, sales are down and Apple's share price has suffered as a result.

If, as a tech consumer product company, you keep offering very little in terms of innovation yet keep charging more, this is what happens. I don't need to have an MBA to know this, it's common sense and you think Tim Cook would know this too but apparently he doesn't. The only thing Tim Cook knows to do is drive the bus that Steve Jobs built.

Brand loyalty can only get you so far. And with the competition offering more and more innovation, things won't change unless Apple does an about face and gets serious about the iphone again.

If all people wanted was to keep the ecosystem in tact with a solid decvice for 2017, the iphone 8/ 8 Plus would have done the job sublimely. But a 10 year edition device had to be much more than what the X was.

It's not like Apple has not been in the wars before because of stupid decisions it made. Once upon a time Steve Jobs had to come back and rescue it, unfortunately he won't be around a second time if Tim Crook keeps slowing down the innovation and all the while increasing the price.

Tim crook.. lol

 

[arcturuz]

iphone X is good, but not worth the price

hopefully prices will fall for next year's new iphones

 

[iFan83]

It's priced very high, this should be expected, a mad rush to get one for the hardcore tech people but at this point, your average person may not like to spend that money for it. iOS is also in need of improvement, its feeling dated, old, boring and I'm sure many are feeling this way.

I'm in the process of upgrading my phone and I'll like go with the $129 iPhone 8 Plus or the free iPhone 8, it's a cell phone to me, so I don't feel the need to pay $599 (Canada) for a cell phone because it unlocks with my face and doesn't have a bazel

I'm an Apple guy that's deep in their ecosystem, and I agree Apple hasn't done much since Job's passing and I do feel Android and others will surpass them soon if Apple doesn't start being special again.

 

[ftaok]

IMO, the recent stories coming out indicating lower than expected/anticipated iPhoneX sales are just stories being pushed out from entities trying to drive Apple's stock price down. The folks with the money push out "research" from questionable analysts in order to get the price down so they can load up. Then they wait until Jan 20-something and Apple reports huge numbers and the price goes up.

Profit made.

These stories come out every year around this time because they know Apple won't say anything. These stories will intensify over the next 2 weeks, when Apple is forbidden to comment. No one can officially refute these stories and small investors lose their nerve and sell High.

 

[TokMok3]

iphone X is good, but not worth the price

hopefully prices will fall for next year's new iphones

I think the $999 price for a phone is going to be from now on the standard for flagship phones.
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It's priced very high, this should be expected, a mad rush to get one for the hardcore tech people but at this point, your average person may not like to spend that money for it. iOS is also in need of improvement, its feeling dated, old, boring and I'm sure many are feeling this way.

I'm in the process of upgrading my phone and I'll like go with the $129 iPhone 8 Plus or the free iPhone 8, it's a cell phone to me, so I don't feel the need to pay $599 (Canada) for a cell phone because it unlocks with my face and doesn't have a bazel

I'm an Apple guy that's deep in their ecosystem, and I agree Apple hasn't done much since Job's passing and I do feel Android and others will surpass them soon if Apple doesn't start being special again.

The performance of iOS 11 and the quality of the experience on the iPhone X is fantastic. One thing is to watch videos about it, and another to hold one in your hand. In fact, I thing all this new gestures gives the device a modern look and feeling. Just unlocking the device with face id is a unique experience, the animations are smooth as silk, and the device itself feels solid. If I were you I will go for the X.

 

[mcdj]

Tim Crook? Any semblance of a reasoned discussion goes out the window when it starts with baseless jabs.

 

[tl01]

Is this like a big “I told you so” post?! Everyone loves people who do that. And iPhone sales volume has nothing to do with my phone and my experience. I’m still glad I bought it...so I’m not sure what your point is.

 

[ForumChick]

No numbers released, yet you already know it’s not a super cycle? Lol.

https://www.thestreet.com/story/14393748/1/apple-could-be-worth-one-trillion-by-2018.html
Many analysts are surprised that the 8 series outsold the X in November. There was never going to be any supercycle. Hilarious that these wall street nuts thought that consumers would by phones that cost a grand.
“Citing the iPhone X's super-high $1,000 price and confusing features, a Sinolink Securities analyst predicted that Apple will ship just 35 million iPhone X devices in the first three months of 2018, roughly 10 million fewer than previously expected.”

 

[ACG12]

I finally got to play with one at the Apple Store, today. The phone is nice, but it's a little overrated and extremely overpriced. Not worth $500 more than what I paid for my 7 256gb back in Sept of this year. I'd seriously consider it if the 256gb was discounted to the 64gb price, though.

 

[boltjames]

I finally got to play with one at the Apple Store, today. The phone is nice, but it's a little overrated and extremely overpriced. Not worth $500 more than what I paid for my 7 256gb back in Sept of this year. I'd seriously consider it if the 256gb was discounted to the 64gb price, though.

Until you experience Face ID, Wireless Charging, and the Ridiculous Battery Life you don't know what you're missing. This cannot be understood by playing with one in an Apple Store for a few minutes.

Trust your Uncle Jim on this one.

 

[Abs_p]

Until you experience Face ID, Wireless Charging, and the Ridiculous Battery Life you don't know what you're missing. This cannot be understood by playing with one in an Apple Store for a few minutes.

Trust your Uncle Jim on this one.

Wireless charging doesnt make any difference to me personally. I use it sometimes, I dont use it sometimes. It doesnt change my life much, "fast charging" capable charger on the other hand would be so much more useful. It's a shame that Apple packs a 5W charger in the box, now I have my MacBook's charger to get that full speed charging and a really nice Anker charger but most people dont and Apple has no excuse to not bundle a 18-24w charger in the box.

"Ridiculous battery life" is more or less the same as on iPhone 8.

FaceID is good to have yes.

TBH iPhone X's problem is not the hardware, it's top notch, it's the software. iOS has been stagnant since a long time now and oh those god awful notifications. I used Stock android for the first time in years and holy ****, it does notifications so much better than iOS.

 

[thesaint024]

I finally got to play with one at the Apple Store, today. The phone is nice, but it's a little overrated and extremely overpriced. Not worth $500 more than what I paid for my 7 256gb back in Sept of this year. I'd seriously consider it if the 256gb was discounted to the 64gb price, though.

At least you're putting a price on what the value is to you. I wouldn't be surprised if the price comes down a bit into your wheelhouse. Then you'll have a real debate on your hands!

Wireless charging doesnt make any difference to me personally. I use it sometimes, I dont use it sometimes. It doesnt change my life much, "fast charging" capable charger on the other hand would be so much more useful. It's a shame that Apple packs a 5W charger in the box, now I have my MacBook's charger to get that full speed charging and a really nice Anker charger but most people dont and Apple has no excuse to not bundle a 18-24w charger in the box.

"Ridiculous battery life" is more or less the same as on iPhone 8.

FaceID is good to have yes.

TBH iPhone X's problem is not the hardware, it's top notch, it's the software. iOS has been stagnant since a long time now and oh those god awful notifications. I used Stock android for the first time in years and holy ****, it does notifications so much better than iOS.

Pretty much agree with all your points except the battery. I used the 7 for the past year, and the battery is noticeably better than when the 7 was new. I would estimate it's around 20% better. I think the 7 is a good proxy for the 8. It also could be squeezing savings from the OLED. As for the rest...

Wireless was not something I cared about initially, and it's a nice to have now. But I'm taking advantage of it now that it's here, but I could just as easily live without. I charge wirelessly overnight just because I got a cheap qi charger, not because it's that much more convenient. I now have a wireless charging in the car, and that is super convenient. Plugging in is a pain while driving. Now it's always battery drain neutral at a minimum.

FaceID is different, not better or worse than TouchID in usability. Both have pros and cons. Android's notification system is superior, end of story. Apple needs to get on their game on that one.

 

[44267547]

This thread makes zero sense to me. Another thread was started on the exact same topic two days ago based off the front page article about analyst mudslinging numbers they have no evidence on whatsoever. And this thread is an exact replica of that. Why don't we just wait until Apple reports the numbers come January and then someone can come up with a conjectured theory after that.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Oh well the world will still keep on turning. I’m sure Apple have sold lots of them even if they haven’t broken any records.

 

[TokMok3]

Humans suffer short term memory, in a couple of months all this will be forgotten. Apple and those that direct humanity have a good understanding of that.

 

[Deeds500]

Do trolls know how to use the search function, or just look a few threads down? I suppose that’s not the point though. Never ending here.

I searched and saw nothing.
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This thread makes zero sense to me. Another thread was started on the exact same topic two days ago based off the front page article about analyst mudslinging numbers they have no evidence on whatsoever. And this thread is an exact replica of that. Why don't we just wait until Apple reports the numbers come January and then someone can come up with a conjectured theory after that.

At the time of posting my op, the article I linked in the op was 5 hours old.

 

[MsRandall]

I still love my iPhone X purchased on pre order madness midnight. Everyone I know who normally upgrades with me didn’t because of the pricing and they have paid off 7pluses thanks to T-Mobiles get out of the red promo

All the other newer or current flagship devices Note 8, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, Samsung s8, and pixel have gotten great promotional deals without a trade in needed - except for the BF Walmart deal the iPhone X had only a $300 trade in deal

When the iPhone X gets a promotional deal or a BB/Target gift card promo like the rest of the flagship phones above it will sell again

 

[maflynn]

I'm happy with my X, but I also understand the arguments for not buying it, the price, the notch, the fact that they're not really offering much that other makers have had for years but are pricing it like they have. Comparing the innards with the 8, and the X is very similar.

I'm happy with the x, but yet I think apple got greedy and a bit lazy. The laziness was not doing much to the iPhone since the 6 and when they finally rolled out their major update, it was really not much different then the Samsung S8

 

[Keniutek]

iphone X is good, but not worth the price

hopefully prices will fall for next year's new iphones

Want to place a bet?
They set a new standard (the SE replacement or whatever cheap iPhone they'll show us will be the only one with a "decent" price). Sad freakin times...

 

[zhandri]

since nobody really knows how many X apple really sold, i'd say this is pure speculation and probably BS

 

[maflynn]

since nobody really knows how many X apple really sold, i'd say this is pure speculation and probably BS

The same argument was made for the 2016 MBPs, I was one who felt that the 2016 MBPs were not selling, but I was proven wrong. I'm at a point that I'll not say its bad/good unless I see more hard facts from apple

 

[mtneer]

I think people conflate individual purchase expectations vs. Wall Street financial expectations. The OP seems to be talking about the latter, it has nothing to do with how many individual anecdotes we can pull out regarding the X - good or bad.

 

[MaskedCarrot]

Can someone please fill me in on why people say that Android's notifications are superior?

Are you guys referring to notifications on the lock screen or status bar?

I don't get that argument. I have used Androids for years as work phones when I was still in Cellular sales and always had an iPhone for personal use. The last Android I had before I left sales was the Pixel XL, and to be honest, at least on the lock screen, I like iOS's notifications better. I like how everything is uniform and it does what I want it to do. I don't see Android being any worse or better than iOS. Actually I don't think Android's lock screen notifications look as uniform as iOS if I had to pick something.