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Heithel

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I thought I’d give my input since I haven’t seen many people talking about it.

I’ll be going from my 7 to the XR when it comes out.
According to Apple I can trade in my 7 for £170 ending up paying the XR £579.

Everyone is obsessing over this bloody display when on a day to day experience rushing while on the go you’ll be barely able to tell the difference.

What sold it to me is when they said ONE HOUR AND A HALF more battery than the 8+. I can’t even imagine what it means not having to charge my phone at 1pm if I decide to go out after work. And yes I recently swapped the battery, when they lowered the price.

At the end of the day, the feature of a phone we all can agree on, is a long battery life that doesn’t leave you stranded when you’re trying to find what bus to take or what the fastest route home.

What’s the point in having 5% deeper black if my phone dies while I’m enjoying this super dooper display?

The only reason why I haven’t gone with a Plus so far is because I don’t like large phones. The size and the XR seems to be an acceptable compromise. I would’ve preferred it a tad smaller but probably it wouldn’t have had performed so well in terms of battery.

I just don’t understand how not being so dependent on a charger can be unappealing, focusing so much on a display you use to watch YouTube, check Instagram and emails on, also considering that Retina display served is well so far.
Why would I need so much resolution? If I ever have to edit photos I would do it on Lightroom on a much bigger and better display. Why do you need to see how many pores Marques Brownlee has on his face? And then again if you really need to a phone is not the right device to do it.

When boiled down is quite simple: wouldn’t you want the battery of your phone to last even longer so you wouldn’t even need to be concerned about doing everything you want and more with it and having the dilemma of “mmmmh I’m at 30% maybe I shouldn’t watch this episode of Stranger Things on Netflix on my way back, because I’m not too sure where to take the next bus” so you have to stare at the foggy window in silence waiting for the City Mapper notification?
That’s why I say battery life first then the rest, with the assumption that the rest got good enough.

It's kinda like trying to watch a movie online at home and you can choose superultrayeahmygod HD but your broadband keeps on buffering. Ultimately you choose a lower resolution to enjoy the content for longer.

It'd be like saying you can buy the most HD TV which would be crisp af but it would allow you to watch only half of the movie to then go off, or a TV that's not as crisp but sufficiently sharp to be able to still enjoy the content and that would stay on for the whole movie.

Anyone would choose to watch the movie in its entirety instead of watching half movie with unbelievable sharpness.

Thoughts?
 
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CrazyForCashews

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The only reason why I haven’t gone with a Plus so far is because I don’t like large phones. The size and the XR seems to be an acceptable compromise.
You're in for a surprise because from what I've seen, the XR is almost just as big as the Plus models, and just as heavy too.

Going from a 6, 7, or 8 to the XR will be quite a drastic difference. Just something to keep in mind.
 

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You're in for a surprise because from what I've seen, the XR is almost just as big as the Plus models, and just as heavy too.

Going from a 6, 7, or 8 to the XR will be quite a drastic difference. Just something to keep in mind.
It isnt nearly as big as a Plus model. It's pretty much the exact size as a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which is a significantly smaller form factor than the Plus phones.
 
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Regardless of the display, my expectations would be better battery life due to the processor improvements and larger battery capacity with respect to the iPhone 7.
 
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Ultimately it depends on the user when it comes to battery life. In another thread you said you need to recharge at 1 pm. If that’s the case, you’ll need to do it at 2:30 now. Is that a much better scenario for you? Improvement is improvement so it’s a valid selling point, but it comes down to how often one uses their phone. For myself, my 7 Plus, X, and Max get placed on the charger at night with about 40% battery. I’d take OLED over an extra hour and a half battery as it means nothing to me.
 

Heithel

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I found that the Plus models and therefore the Max are just over the threshold I’m able take. The XR will be slightly smaller than Plus/Max and therefore just below the biggest I would like to have a phone. I certainly wish the form factor would be a little smaller but at least is not as big as a Max.
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I felt the same way but considering how they’re already integrating long presses to substitute 3D Touch we are not losing much especially when they replaced the cursor long pressing on the space bar. That was my main concern for 3D Touch.
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In my case it would be much later than 2.30 as I would me coming from a 7.
 

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I would go Xr if it had 3D touch.................. kinda got used to it now

I actually have it turned off on my 6S+ to see if I miss it. So far I only kind of missed the shortcut to the barcode scanner in the Target app. However, assuming most apps will open faster on the XR, it will still probably take less time without the shortcut.
 

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One hour and a half more battery than the 8+ is confusing. Is this all screen on time, or some form of usage?
 

Heithel

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One hour and a half more battery than the 8+ is confusing. Is this all screen on time, or some form of usage?
This is according to Apple website.
 

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EugW

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I thought I’d give my input since I haven’t seen many people talking about it.

I’ll be going from my 7 to the XR when it comes out.
According to Apple I can trade in my 7 for £170 ending up paying the XR £579.

Everyone is obsessing over this bloody display when on a day to day experience rushing while on the go you’ll be barely able to tell the difference.

What sold it to me is when they said ONE HOUR AND A HALF more battery than the 8+. I can’t even imagine what it means not having to charge my phone at 1pm if I decide to go out after work. And yes I recently swapped the battery, when they lowered the price.

At the end of the day, the feature of a phone we all can agree on, is a long battery life that doesn’t leave you stranded when you’re trying to find what bus to take or what the fastest route home.

What’s the point in having 5% deeper black if my phone dies while I’m enjoying this super dooper display?

The only reason why I haven’t gone with a Plus so far is because I don’t like large phones. The size and the XR seems to be an acceptable compromise. I would’ve preferred it a tad smaller but probably it wouldn’t have had performed so well in terms of battery.

I just don’t understand how not being so dependent on a charger can be unappealing, focusing so much on a display you use to watch YouTube, check Instagram and emails on, also considering that Retina display served is well so far.
Why would I need so much resolution? If I ever have to edit photos I would do it on Lightroom on a much bigger and better display. Why do you need to see how many pores Marques Brownlee has on his face? And then again if you really need to a phone is not the right device to do it.

When boiled down is quite simple: wouldn’t you want the battery of your phone to last even longer so you wouldn’t even need to be concerned about doing everything you want and more with it and having the dilemma of “mmmmh I’m at 30% maybe I shouldn’t watch this episode of Stranger Things on Netflix on my way back, because I’m not too sure where to take the next bus” so you have to stare at the foggy window in silence waiting for the City Mapper notification?
That’s why I say battery life first then the rest, with the assumption that the rest got good enough.

It's kinda like trying to watch a movie online at home and you can choose superultrayeahmygod HD but your broadband keeps on buffering. Ultimately you choose a lower resolution to enjoy the content for longer.

It'd be like saying you can buy the most HD TV which would be crisp af but it would allow you to watch only half of the movie to then go off, or a TV that's not as crisp but sufficiently sharp to be able to still enjoy the content and that would stay on for the whole movie.

Anyone would choose to watch the movie in its entirety instead of watching half movie with unbelievable sharpness.

Thoughts?
I have a charger in my car, and one at my desk at work too. So, battery life isn't as much of a concern for me. It's always nice to have more battery life, but it's not mission critical in my case.

As for the screen, as mentioned in the other thread, if it's good for you then great, but for some people it's will be a step down. You keep saying people "barely will be able to tell the difference" but that's likely not true. For some people it's actually not that hard to tell the difference between an 8 and 8+.

For the deeper black, it's not 5% more, it's a huge difference, but personally I don't care in a phone. The reason is that to really appreciate the deeper black, it should be in an environment with dim lighting. It's just about impossible to appreciate the deeper blacks in a bright room or in daylight. So for me, OLED is not critical in a phone. However, IMO, a higher pixel density definitely is a big plus, whether it'd be an LCD or a OLED.

What I would have preferred is a XR-like tier, but with the 8+ LCD's pixel density. I would be all over that.

tl;dr:

I'd take a higher ppi display over longer battery life, hands down. With the XS Max you can have both, but it costs too damn much.

Ultimately it depends on the user when it comes to battery life. In another thread you said you need to recharge at 1 pm. If that’s the case, you’ll need to do it at 2:30 now. Is that a much better scenario for you?
Indeed. Or having to charge at 4 pm just before you get off work.
 

vagos

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The XR seems like a great deal if you can afford to miss a few luxuries (mostly the screen). I plan to replace my SE with a white XR when it becomes available. And yes, it’s mostly due to the amazing battery life.
 

Orangeman13

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I thought I’d give my input since I haven’t seen many people talking about it.

I’ll be going from my 7 to the XR when it comes out.
According to Apple I can trade in my 7 for £170 ending up paying the XR £579.

Everyone is obsessing over this bloody display when on a day to day experience rushing while on the go you’ll be barely able to tell the difference.

What sold it to me is when they said ONE HOUR AND A HALF more battery than the 8+. I can’t even imagine what it means not having to charge my phone at 1pm if I decide to go out after work. And yes I recently swapped the battery, when they lowered the price.

At the end of the day, the feature of a phone we all can agree on, is a long battery life that doesn’t leave you stranded when you’re trying to find what bus to take or what the fastest route home.

What’s the point in having 5% deeper black if my phone dies while I’m enjoying this super dooper display?

The only reason why I haven’t gone with a Plus so far is because I don’t like large phones. The size and the XR seems to be an acceptable compromise. I would’ve preferred it a tad smaller but probably it wouldn’t have had performed so well in terms of battery.

I just don’t understand how not being so dependent on a charger can be unappealing, focusing so much on a display you use to watch YouTube, check Instagram and emails on, also considering that Retina display served is well so far.
Why would I need so much resolution? If I ever have to edit photos I would do it on Lightroom on a much bigger and better display. Why do you need to see how many pores Marques Brownlee has on his face? And then again if you really need to a phone is not the right device to do it.

When boiled down is quite simple: wouldn’t you want the battery of your phone to last even longer so you wouldn’t even need to be concerned about doing everything you want and more with it and having the dilemma of “mmmmh I’m at 30% maybe I shouldn’t watch this episode of Stranger Things on Netflix on my way back, because I’m not too sure where to take the next bus” so you have to stare at the foggy window in silence waiting for the City Mapper notification?
That’s why I say battery life first then the rest, with the assumption that the rest got good enough.

It's kinda like trying to watch a movie online at home and you can choose superultrayeahmygod HD but your broadband keeps on buffering. Ultimately you choose a lower resolution to enjoy the content for longer.

It'd be like saying you can buy the most HD TV which would be crisp af but it would allow you to watch only half of the movie to then go off, or a TV that's not as crisp but sufficiently sharp to be able to still enjoy the content and that would stay on for the whole movie.

Anyone would choose to watch the movie in its entirety instead of watching half movie with unbelievable sharpness.

Thoughts?
Sounds like you’re trying to convince yourself
 

Orangeman13

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Well then I managed quite well don’t you think?
No, I have the max and I don’t have to worry about charging throughout the day. I am a media user and game a lot and still have plenty of juice at the end of the day.
 

Heithel

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I have a charger in my car, and one at my desk at work too. So, battery life isn't as much of a concern for me. It's always nice to have more battery life, but it's not mission critical in my case.

As for the screen, as mentioned in the other thread, if it's good for you then great, but for some people it's will be a step down. You keep saying people "barely will be able to tell the difference" but that's likely not true. For some people it's actually not that hard to tell the difference between an 8 and 8+.

For the deeper black, it's not 5% more, it's a huge difference, but personally I don't care in a phone. The reason is that to really appreciate the deeper black, it should be in an environment with dim lighting. It's just about impossible to appreciate the deeper blacks in a bright room or in daylight. So for me, OLED is not critical in a phone. However, IMO, a higher pixel density definitely is a big plus, whether it'd be an LCD or a OLED.

What I would have preferred is a XR-like tier, but with the 8+ LCD's pixel density. I would be all over that.

tl;dr:

I'd take a higher ppi display over longer battery life, hands down. With the XS Max you can have both, but it costs too damn much.


Indeed. Or having to charge at 4 pm just before you get off work.
As I mentioned, in my case it would be much longer than that coming from a 7.
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No, I have the max and I don’t have to worry about charging throughout the day. I am a media user and game a lot and still have plenty of juice at the end of the day.
How’s this related to how I’m convinced to buy the XR for the reasons I mentioned? The Max is way too big and to expensive for me. o_O
 

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Orangeman13

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As I mentioned, in my case it would be much longer than that coming from a 7.
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How’s this related to how I’m convinced to buy the XR for the reasons I mentioned? The Max is way too big and to expensive for me. o_O
Too expensive I understand. It’s too expensive for me too but I just cut in other areas lol
 

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I'm tempted by the XR as well. I have this suspicion that the screen won't be nearly as disappointing as people are making it out to be. I'm not one to give undue credit, but I suspect when Apple renamed the screen liquid retina it indicated improvements versus previous LCD iPhones, even if it has a lower resolution then the plus models. Obviously we'll have to wait until we see one in person.

My main hang up with the XR is that I encountered a Max at Best Buy and it was so immersive with that 6.5 inch screen. It was comfortable for me to hold, but it offered a lot more information on the screen then previous iPhones (no surprise). I could see where the combination of comfort and immersion could make it a better consumption device then an iPad. And the XR will have a screen .4 inches smaller.

Even though I can afford one, I think $1,100 for a phone to be an insult, so I won't buy a Max....but now it has me thinking of alternatives. So I'm looking to see what the One Plus 6T will be like. It's supposed to come with a 6.4 inch, high resolution screen and a larger battery. Microsoft is supposed to allow Windows 10 to view and reply to test messages with Android phones. It might be time to jump the Mac eco system for me.....but Mojave is so sexy on my Mac Book Pro and that Max is such a beautiful phone.....
 

CrazyForCashews

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It isnt nearly as big as a Plus model. It's pretty much the exact size as a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, which is a significantly smaller form factor than the Plus phones.
iPhone XR: 150.9 x 75.7 x 8.3 mm - 194 grams
iPhone 8 Plus: 158.4 x 78.1 x 7.5 mm - 202 grams

“It isn’t nearly as big...” According to those dimensions they pretty much are. In the same ballpark. I would classify the XR as being in the same big phone category as a Plus model with it also having the weight of one.
 

kre62

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OLED is absolute trash. Its 20 years behind LCD (viewing angles, burn in, etc).

The XR will the the most advanced phone Apples ever released, with the most advanced screen. Check the XS yellow thread for confirmation. Sorry OLED fanboys, you got sold on an inferior, out of date technology. It sucks pure and simple.
 

jsmith1

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XR is a filler phone with filler features, so yea, it better have better battery life
 

tonybarnaby

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OLED is absolute trash. Its 20 years behind LCD (viewing angles, burn in, etc).

The XR will the the most advanced phone Apples ever released, with the most advanced screen. Check the XS yellow thread for confirmation. Sorry OLED fanboys, you got sold on an inferior, out of date technology. It sucks pure and simple.
This is crazy talk. OLED is the future, like it or not. It’s got more drawbacks and it’s harder to make, but OLED just looks better and it can be more power efficient.
 
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kre62

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This is crazy talk. OLED is the future, like it or not. It’s got more drawbacks and it’s harder to make, but OLED just looks better and it can be more power efficient.

LOL OLED is not the future. Its a crappy bridge tech. Micro LED is the future. Apple succumbed to OELD because MLED isn't ready yet. OLED will be soon forgotten as one of the worst techs in mankind. Burn in - is this 1994? Color shift? Are you kidding? OLED is 10 steps back from LCD tech. Pure trash.
 
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