iPhone XS/R camera

[Darmok N Jalad]

Anyone catch the Apple event today? They added a new feature to the camera that allows you to adjust the depth of field digitally in post processing. The examples they showed looked pretty impressive for a fixed aperture smartphone camera. I know it’s early to make a real judgement, but it’s pretty amazing how far smartphone cameras have come and I’m curious to see how this....develops. With all the product leaks before the event, it was nice to see a surprise slipped in there.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Anyone catch the Apple event today? They added a new feature to the camera that allows you to adjust the depth of field digitally in post processing. The examples they showed looked pretty impressive for a fixed aperture smartphone camera. I know it’s early to make a real judgement, but it’s pretty amazing how far smartphone cameras have come and I’m curious to see how this....develops. With all the product leaks before the event, it was nice to see a surprise slipped in there.

Looked impressive but I guarantee it will be grainy as hell. I'll post some examples when mine arrives!

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Looked impressive but I guarantee it will be grainy as hell. I'll post some examples when mine arrives!

Got on the preorder train? Which one did you order? I gotta say, I think the XR and XS Max will sell like hotcakes. I'll probably just get the 7 or 8 when my 6S finally kicks the bucket. Heck, as of today, the refurbed 7 on the Apple store starts at $379.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Got on the preorder train? Which one did you order? I gotta say, I think the XR and XS Max will sell like hotcakes. I'll probably just get the 7 or 8 when my 6S finally kicks the bucket. Heck, as of today, the refurbed 7 on the Apple store starts at $379.

Can't preorder until Friday morning.
But it will be an iPhone XS Max 256 GB Space grey.

 

[MacDevil7334]

I have no idea how it will stack up to Apple’s implementation, but there is an app called Focos that can do this on existing devices. Much like the default portrait mode, it works well when it works.

 

[Donka]

There are loads of apps available that do just this - I used Big Lens for a while but not recently. They usually depend on you manually applying a mask to determine what is the background then selecting how far out of focus to make it. The new iPhones use the depth information from their sensors to automate the mask part so will be a real time saver and probably more accurate. It will be interesting to see how the finished images look.

 

[akash.nu]

This app has been doing exactly that since some time now. Glad to have Apple make it part of the photos app though.

Focos by Xiaodong Wanghttps://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/focos/id1274938524?mt=8

 

[freezelighter]

Huge applause for something that has already been there since long time.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-xs-exclusive-adjustable-bokeh.2137009/

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Well, I guess it’s less original than I thought. Watching the event, I figured the camera’s ability to stack more frames in a shot was part of what helped it do so. I suppose if nothing else, it will push the idea into the mainstream to maybe get more hardware and software development time?

 

[0970373]

Well, I guess it’s less original than I thought. Watching the event, I figured the camera’s ability to stack more frames in a shot was part of what helped it do so. I suppose if nothing else, it will push the idea into the mainstream to maybe get more hardware and software development time?

There's also the now-defunct Lytro camera, which I think started the whole adjustable focus thing years ago (I may be wrong). The Focos app is fun but native Apple software will hopefully be able to take full advantage of the fancy camera.

Also, I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronounce bokeh the way Phil did on stage - boh-kuh. I just kept thinking of the city in Florida where New Yorkers go off to retire to.

 

[Apple fanboy]

There's also the now-defunct Lytro camera, which I think started the whole adjustable focus thing years ago (I may be wrong). The Focos app is fun but native Apple software will hopefully be able to take full advantage of the fancy camera.

Also, I don't think I've ever heard anyone pronounce bokeh the way Phil did on stage - boh-kuh. I just kept thinking of the city in Florida where New Yorkers go off to retire to.

Miami?

 

[0970373]

Miami?

I guess Boca Raton is the Miami for old people. Lol. It’s the eternal spring break, in one could say.

 

[Apple fanboy]

I guess Boca Raton is the Miami for old people. Lol. It’s the eternal spring break, in one could say.

Never heard of it, but I'm hardly local. Our equivalent would be Eastbourne.

As a comic once said.

Dover the gateway for the continent.
Eastbourne the gateway for the incontinent.

 

[0970373]

Never heard of it, but I'm hardly local. Our equivalent would be Eastbourne.

As a comic once said.

Dover the gateway for the continent.
Eastbourne the gateway for the incontinent.

Yeah, a lot of New Yorkers retire down there as it's cheaper and no brutal winter. Just hurricanes. Lots of retirement homes.

 

[0970373]

Back to actual talk of the camera in the XS, I’m loving the photos from Pete Souza. I love his work in general. He’s a wonderful storyteller, IMO. THese look great. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...es-pictures-taken-using-Apples-iPhone-XS.html

 

[tizeye]

Never heard of it, but I'm hardly local. Our equivalent would be Eastbourne.

As a comic once said.

Dover the gateway for the continent.
Eastbourne the gateway for the incontinent.

Well, Boca Raton is Spanish for Rats Mouth, and people go there to live.

Actually, Boca is nice. About 50 miles (80 km) north of Miami, sandwiched between Ft Lauderdale and West Palm Beach. A coastal town with a lot of the advantages and convenient to the larger cities, without the major congestion and other disadvantages. However, it is continual development from West Palm Beach south so all cities interconnect/merge due to the lack of undeveloped space between them.

 

[Clix Pix]

I've heard "bokeh" pronounced (with a long "o" as both "Boh-kay" and "Boh-kuh," along with many variations somewhere in-between such as "Boh-keh".

ETA: From a website

https://www.diyphotography.net/pronounce-bokeh-heres/

which discusses this very question:

"Some pronounce it as “bouquet,” some as “boo-key,” sometimes it’s “bok-uh” and so on. But I’d say a native Japanese speaker and a Product Management Director of Canon is a pretty reliable person to tell you the right pronunciation. And it’s “boh-keh,” or /boke/ if you prefer phonetic transcription."

Getting back to the thread topic, even though I've got a perfectly lovely, wonderful iPhone X, I am definitely looking forward to buying an iPhone XS due to the new features and improvements in the camera. I've found that many times lately, it's just been so easy to grab my iPhone and snap off a photo rather than pull out a camera -- and not only that, it's quicker and easier to then immediately email the image to myself rather than have to pull the SD card out of a camera, stick it into the SD card reader and grab the image(s) that way. I email myself the image, quickly can save it to the desktop and then take it into the image processing/editing program of my choice....

Oh, and wow, I can make and receive phone calls on this thing, too!!!

So, yeah, an iPhone XS is in my not-too-distant future.

 

[themumu]

it's quicker and easier to then immediately email the image to myself rather than have to pull the SD card out of a camera, stick it into the SD card reader and grab the image(s) that way. I email myself the image, quickly can save it to the desktop and then take it into the image processing/editing program of my choice....

Wait, what? No AirDrop? Are you using a windows computer?

 

[Clix Pix]

This is an all-Apple household, no windows computers in sight!! Got rid of my Windows machines back in 2006, about a year after I got my first iMac...... I find it just as fast and easy to send myself an email rather than to mess with AirDrop....

ETA: Just ran an experiment with AirDrop and it has improved significantly since the last time I had attempted to use it, which was quite a while ago. Worked quickly and flawlessly, image showed up in my Downloads folder almost immediately. I guess I'll start using this method from now on.....LOL!!

 

[0970373]

This is an all-Apple household, no windows computers in sight!! Got rid of my Windows machines back in 2006, about a year after I got my first iMac...... I find it just as fast and easy to send myself an email rather than to mess with AirDrop....

ETA: Just ran an experiment with AirDrop and it has improved significantly since the last time I had attempted to use it, which was quite a while ago. Worked quickly and flawlessly, image showed up in my Downloads folder almost immediately. I guess I'll start using this method from now on.....LOL!!

I assume you have iCloud Photos Library also? The sync is pretty fast between devices.

 

[Clix Pix]

I don't use Photos at all, either in the computer or on my iPhone. That was part of my hesitation about AirDrop, as I had the idea that the images would land in there, which I didn't want. Quite relieved to see them in my downloads folder -- much easier and quicker to retrieve! I do use iCloud, just not Photos.
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Back to actual talk of the camera in the XS, I’m loving the photos from Pete Souza. I love his work in general. He’s a wonderful storyteller, IMO. THese look great. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/science...es-pictures-taken-using-Apples-iPhone-XS.html

Finally got around to looking at these wonderful photos!!! Makes me want to jump on Metro, go downtown and see/photograph some of these things again myself! I also hadn't been aware of the "Art of Burning Man" exhibit at the Renwick, and that is definitely something I will want to see before it closes in January 2019.

 

[0970373]

I don't use Photos at all, either in the computer or on my iPhone. That was part of my hesitation about AirDrop, as I had the idea that the images would land in there, which I didn't want. Quite relieved to see them in my downloads folder -- much easier and quicker to retrieve! I do use iCloud, just not Photos.

Is there a reason why? I'm just curious. I use Lightroom for the most part, especially for anything taken on the m43, but Photos on Mac is just a mirror of what you have on your iPhone Photos app. It makes organizing your iPhone photos just a little bit easier. I find using smart albums to be the best thing on it since you can't do that on your iPhone. I find the extensions have gotten much better as well.

 

[Clix Pix]

Never liked iPhoto, either, and instead used Aperture from its beginnings and in fact still am occasionally using it, while well aware that it's time to move on to another editing program. I've been trying out various programs including Luminar 2018, Capture One Pro 11 for Sony, and Darktable. Really not enthused about Lightroom and the whole subscription thing, although in the past I did use Photoshop for image editing.

Until recently I really didn't take that many photos on my iPhone, and periodically I clean out the Camera Roll by bringing everything into the computer and then deleting anything I don't want to keep. I prefer organizing my images my own way rather than how Apple/Photos would do it.

 

[0970373]

Never liked iPhoto, either, and instead used Aperture from its beginnings and in fact still am occasionally using it, while well aware that it's time to move on to another editing program. I've been trying out various programs including Luminar 2018, Capture One Pro 11 for Sony, and Darktable. Really not enthused about Lightroom and the whole subscription thing, although in the past I did use Photoshop for image editing.

Until recently I really didn't take that many photos on my iPhone, and periodically I clean out the Camera Roll by bringing everything into the computer and then deleting anything I don't want to keep. I prefer organizing my images my own way rather than how Apple/Photos would do it.

I absolutely hated iPhotos and clung to Aperture a little too hard after its death. I eventually gave in to LR and it's my main library/archive. I send the RAW iPhone keepers there as well. FWIW, the Luminar extension on Photos works well. It's literally a shortcut to open the photo in Luminar and then saves it back back to Photos to sync back w/ your iCloud Library. I have my Photos albums set up pretty much the same way I did in Aperture - by project, by year, smart albums. Looks different, functions the same. Tagging (aka keywords) is a feature that is much more useful now. Lightroom has a standalone version w/o a sub as well. I have a script that sends certain LR albums/folders to sync w/ Photos so that I have them on all my iDevices as edited. Photos has come a long way from the debacle it was at launch.

Anyway, always interesting to see how other ppl manage their libraries. There's no right or wrong way, just a "best for you" way.