iPhoto 4

[5300cs]

I've just tried iPhoto 4 and it's noticeably faster on my 550 TiBook than the previous versions. Especially with photo scrolling and it doesn't pause for 10 seconds when switching from album to album.
I personally don't care about the added transitions for slideshows, but I guess other people might like them.
The shared photos thing is cool, as is the organizing photos by year.
I would've labelled it iPhoto 2.5 though, I dunno about 3, and I really don't see that many changes to warrant 4.
Anyway, I fully intend to get the full package when it becomes available on the 16th.

 

[blybug]

I've read many of the other iPhoto 4 threads and haven't seen the answer to this question (but I think from what I've seen the answer is NO):

Does iPhoto 4 support "nested" albums??

Meaning, can I have an album called 2003, and under that have albums for January, February, etc?? And be able to collapse these sub-albums under the main album so the album column does not get so long and unweildy? Seems like if iPhoto can now automagically create and organize albums by year, then nested subalbums are an obvious extension...but I fear Apple has not implemented this

It's great that iPhoto will now support up to 25,000 pictures, but if they can't be organized other than with a one-level hierarchy of albums it will still be too hard to manage. I've been using this type of Year->Month->JPGs folder hierarchy in the Finder with about 12,000 pictures dating back to 1995, and use Graphic Converter for a browser-view of these folders. I have only been able to use iPhoto as a "best of" collection because it is too slow with all my pictures, but I do like iPhoto's quick cropping, simple editing, and quick export features for creating CDs to take in for print processing, and that I can view the iPhoto albums on my TiVo.

I was hoping the next iPhoto would become my "all-in-one" solution...so are nested albums possible??

 

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by blybug
Does iPhoto 4 support "nested" albums??

Just tried it, doesn't look like it, sorry.

 

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by blybug
Does iPhoto 4 support "nested" albums??

It does look like they are not supported, and this is one thing that I was really hoping for and looking forward to. Guess I'll have to wait for iLife '05 now!

I think it completely makes sense, especially now that iPhoto supports 25,000 pics - orgaqnizing that many photos into subfolders sure would be nice!

Ah well, hopefully in the next update....

 

[nologo]

In my build (4C4) the Photo library comes with 5 albums that are already nested.

However, the only control over this is by year (2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and "early photos")

I'll dig around and see if I can get any control over this.

 

[wordmunger]

Originally posted by blybug
I've read many of the other iPhoto 4 threads and haven't seen the answer to this question (but I think from what I've seen the answer is NO):

Does iPhoto 4 support "nested" albums??

Meaning, can I have an album called 2003, and under that have albums for January, February, etc??

If it's true that you can't do this, it looks like some of it is now handled automatically in iPhoto 4--your library is automatically subdivided by year, and you can search for photos by date or a range of dates. So it would be very easy to find all the photos you took in January 2003, for example. But I agree that at some point it would still be handy to have hierarchical albums--just as a way to "store" old albums, for example.

 

[puredigital]

iPhoto 4 Stress Tests

Okie, I just did my iPhoto stress tests, as I did with the release of iPhoto 2:

On this little machine this time:

iBook Firewire 366, 196 megs, 80 gig (upgraded internal) HD

My test photos:
The entire season of photos from Bristol Dragway, 5193 photos, about 14 gigs in standard folders.

I imported each folder, one at a time, using drag and drop from the finder, this way keeping the folder names intact in iPhoto:

** you still cannot drag multiple folders and have each folder shown as a section, it merges multiple folders into one, I will write a Applescript app that does this **

** when you drag and drop, and you run out of space over on the left to drop a folder, the only place left to drop is ON the trash icon, which will import the folder, this bug has been in iPhoto since version 1 **

On the last folder of 818 images, the process beachballed, at the 219th photo, a force quit and a reboot made everything happy again, with iPhoto starting with, "219 Photos were found/recovered that were not properly imported, Import them ?" which I did.


Navigating 5,000+ photos is now a breeze on this little machine, this are zero delays or slowdowns

The slideshows have several options, including grading, trashing and rotating the photos WHILE the show runs, a very nice feature, slideshows on this machine run like a dream, even with heavy use of grading and trashing

I set-up a SmartList that shows only the photos that have not been graded, I run slideshow with that list, grade as I go and when the list is empty (it autoupdates) all files have been graded.

Slideshow in a window (click the slideshow button with control key pressed) does work, although, after trying this 5 times, it only worked once, the other times crashed iPhoto

Tested iPhoto 4 with the popular iPhoto helper apps, Iphoto Diet and Iphoto Buddy, no problems at all.

Also tested iPhoto by placing this large library on a encrypted disk image, no slowdowns and it works great

I will let you know more when I add the other 24,000+ photos (I have been shooting thousands of photos a month all digital, since the Apple Quicktake)

 

[dukemeiser]

Could someone tell me or post a screen shot of what the new keyword window looks like? Can you resize the window? Can you rearrange the keywords?

thanks

 

[edesignuk]

Originally posted by dukemeiser
Could someone tell me or post a screen shot of what the new keyword window looks like? Can you resize the window? Can you rearrange the keywords?

thanks

 

[dukemeiser]

That's bad, it looks exactly the same. Can you rearrange the keywords at all?

 

[Hoven]

The Keyword window is bad not just because you can't rearrange the keywords. What's way worse is that they've removed the text-box for search/find!!

I didn't find this out until I upgraded and now I'm most unhappy. I can't believe Apple would remove a perfectly good feature/function. Frankly, I can't believe there never was a FIND menu command. Now, there's no easy way to narrow your view to pics matching text in the title (ie, find a photo by it's title). You have to go mucking around with Smart Albums. Not only that, but once you convert your Library of photots to iPhoto 4, you can't go back.
This is so way bogus