iPod iPod Nano Fault Help

[sheppy1]

Ok so I have here an iPod Nano 1st Gen, this is an ex display ipod, it doesn't have a mark on it and the water sensors haven't been tripped, the problem is, is that it isn't detected by my PC or iTunes in either normal mode or disk mode, I have tried 2 different PC's (Mac and Windows) and 2 USB cables and it just isn;t being detected, it charges just fine though, anyone have any suggestions?

Edit: Oh and it only charges via Firewire and not USB

And the battery shows as completely dead until I connect it to the PC via Firewire, then it pretty much immediately says that it's fully charged and the back starts to get VERY warm, as in it is untouchable as it burns if you touch it for more than 5 seconds

 

[summertree002]

Ok so I have here an iPod Nano 1st Gen, this is an ex display ipod, it doesn't have a mark on it and the water sensors haven't been tripped, the problem is, is that it isn't detected by my PC or iTunes in either normal mode or disk mode, I have tried 2 different PC's (Mac and Windows) and 2 USB cables and it just isn;t being detected, it charges just fine though, anyone have any suggestions?

Edit: Oh and it only charges via Firewire and not USB

there is a manual way you can do it to make your PC detecte it.
follow the steps:
1. Insert your iPod to the computer USB or FireWire port and wait for the computer to recognize it. (PC should be Windows based).
2. Make sure "disk use" has been enabled
3. Open up 'My Computer' and under 'Devices With Removable Storage', double click and open your iPod.
4. If you can not see the ‘iPod Control’ folder, it’s hidden and invisible. To unveil it so that it’s visible, find Tools -> Folder Options -> View, and then check (enable) the option “Show hidden files and folders”
5. Double click on the newly shown 'iPod Control' folder and open up the folder called 'Music'
6. Select all the folders and copy them to a new folder on your computer’s hard drive. Now you can eject your iPod.
7. To reveal the names of the songs and other data tags on the copied files, you should drag the files to the Windows Media Player or iTunes libraries or switch to “Tiles” view in Windows Explorer.
8. Rename the file if necessary. (iTunes will already have the tags stored for these songs so renaming them should not be an issue.)

 

[dXTC]

there is a manual way you can do it to make your PC detecte it.
follow the steps:
1. Insert your iPod to the computer USB or FireWire port and wait for the computer to recognize it. (PC should be Windows based).
2. Make sure "disk use" has been enabled
...

There's a problem with this solution. sheppy1 never gets past step 1, as his computer never recognizes the Nano.

That along with the excessive heat insinuates that the Nano's charging hardware (located on the logic board) has a fault. You may have to replace the logic board, which can be somewhat expensive, as this nano is several years old at this point in time.

I recommend getting a new(er) nano instead. I've seen 2nd and 3rd gen nanos at pawn shops, and Apple's online refurb store often has decent deals on refurbs of the current model nano, with an as-new warranty.

 

[summertree002]

since sheppy1 said " it only charges via Firewire " step 1 is still available. or another method is to change the ipod nano disk format.

 

[dXTC]

since sheppy1 said " it only charges via Firewire " step 1 is still available. or another method is to change the ipod nano disk format.

It charges, yes, but that's all it'll do. Let's re-read the original question...

... the problem is, is that it isn't detected by my PC or iTunes in either normal mode or disk mode, I have tried 2 different PC's (Mac and Windows) and 2 USB cables and it just isn;t being detected, it charges just fine though, anyone have any suggestions?
Edit: Oh and it only charges via Firewire and not USB

(Emphasis on charges is mine).

Sheppy1 can get it to "charge" through the power part of the FireWire cable just fine, but cannot get either a PC or Mac to recognize the nano via the data part of either USB or FireWire. Sheppy literally waits "forever" and the computer still doesn't "see" the nano. If neither Windows nor OS X can recognize the iPod as some sort of device, then iTunes will not see it either, and Sheppy1 will not be able to select "disk mode" in step 2.

Summertree, your steps would be a nice way of salvaging music from an iPod that's about to "die," I'll agree. However, this is not the case. It still plays the music for Sheppy1; unfortunately, the music it contains cannot be changed now. I fear the worst will happen soon, as Sheppy1 notices excessive heat from the nano when charging, and heat will eventually ruin circuits, as I think it's already done to the data port (which would explain the failure to recognize via computer).