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I can't help but feel very disappointed that Apple chose to keep the Lens aperture at F2.2 I was expecting F2.0 which I think is a reasonable upgrade. These tiny senors need all the light they can get and I just don't get it. I have to seriously consider the LG G4 mainly for the camera.
 
I can't help but feel very disappointed that Apple chose to keep the Lens aperture at F2.2 I was expecting F2.0 which I think is a reasonable upgrade. These tiny senors need all the light they can get and I just don't get it. I have to seriously consider the LG G4 mainly for the camera.
Buy a DXO One and get a bigger sensor and 1.8 Aperture.
Tbh the camera phone is what it is. I'm not sure I'd want to leave the :apple: line up to just get a better camera. I prefer iOS to other systems so will make do with whatever camera they offer. I'll stick to DSLR photography when I want something better.
 
Buy a DXO One and get a bigger sensor and 1.8 Aperture.
Tbh the camera phone is what it is. I'm not sure I'd want to leave the :apple: line up to just get a better camera. I prefer iOS to other systems so will make do with whatever camera they offer. I'll stick to DSLR photography when I want something better.

I think this is pretty much the top and bottom of my thoughts too.

The iPhone has a good enough camera. It takes very very good images for what it is, but if I want something to ensure the utmost quality, then a dedicated camera device is what I will turn to.

The only reason I would want a better camera in my phone would be if I was considering not having a dedicated camera.

I am not there yet by a long stretch.

I moved away from Apple devices a while ago. I couldnt justify having an iPhone for my personal phone in addition to my work supplied phone. It was just too much to pay for an apple device for one or two calls every second day and a bit of browsing on the go. I have never really seen the camera on my phone as anything other than for use in emergency or for photographing receipts for my expenses :)

That may well change in the future, but like AFB not moving away from iPhone because of the camera alone, I wont be moving back to iphone because of it either.

I have noticed though that I am not feeling the pizzaz of Apple Day any more. Are you guys feeling similar? I know I am being a heretic on here but...

My wife used to ring fence 6pm-7:30pm on a Tuesday twice a year so I could watch the live streamed comments of the keynotes. I used to be really excited like I was watching the lotto numbers being drawn. Now it is kind of "meh... whatever"...

I am not feeling the Apple revolution energy any more.

It has been years since my reaction has been "Woah! I want one..." and I feel bad for that as I think Apple are still the best in terms of design. I was actually stunned when the watch came out as it was the first time I had seen a negative reaction to an Apple device.

For years Apple devices have garnered a reaction of envy and desire. The watch saw people referring to the wearer in somewhat more derogatory terms. That was a surprise.

Sorry, went off on one there.... oops
 
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I can't help but feel very disappointed that Apple chose to keep the Lens aperture at F2.2 I was expecting F2.0 which I think is a reasonable upgrade.

Thats an almost meaningless difference TBH, that is just a spec number for people driven by spec numbers without appreciating what the physics is. The effect on the image is more easily achieved by a small increase in ISO/noise performance to achieve the image in lower light...than by increasing the aperture...It would be better if they quoted an EV performance but that would "de-camera" the camera if you see what I mean.

I'm not sure I've been very clear :-(
 
I wished 6s had optical stabilization like 6s+ has, but hey, neither my many DSLR lenses have, so I can live with out it.. As for the aperture,I think increasing it by 1/3 of a stop won't provide the same image quality benefits as improving the sensor chip and processor, like it was said above. But 4K video? Coupled with that Super8 camera like phone case that has interchangeable lenses as well? Can't wait to try it!
 
I can't help but feel very disappointed that Apple chose to keep the Lens aperture at F2.2 I was expecting F2.0 which I think is a reasonable upgrade. These tiny senors need all the light they can get and I just don't get it. I have to seriously consider the LG G4 mainly for the camera.

For a third of a stop you seriously have to consider a different camera? Wait until there are some reviews out but I'm sure that your 1/3 of a stop will be accounted for in an upgrade in the sensitivity of the sensor.

I wished 6s had optical stabilization like 6s+ has, but hey, neither my many DSLR lenses have, so I can live with out it.. As for the aperture,I think increasing it by 1/3 of a stop won't provide the same image quality benefits as improving the sensor chip and processor, like it was said above. But 4K video? Coupled with that Super8 camera like phone case that has interchangeable lenses as well? Can't wait to try it!

I think I'm right in saying that the OIS is only for video and not for stills.

Equally, I'll take sensitivity over OIS anyday as shutter speed is what I need for my low light shots.
 
I have noticed though that I am not feeling the pizzaz of Apple Day any more. Are you guys feeling similar? I know I am being a heretic on here but...

My wife used to ring fence 6pm-7:30pm on a Tuesday twice a year so I could watch the live streamed comments of the keynotes. I used to be really excited like I was watching the lotto numbers being drawn. Now it is kind of "meh... whatever"...

I am not feeling the Apple revolution energy any more.

It has been years since my reaction has been "Woah! I want one..." and I feel bad for that as I think Apple are still the best in terms of design. I was actually stunned when the watch came out as it was the first time I had seen a negative reaction to an Apple device.

For years Apple devices have garnered a reaction of envy and desire. The watch saw people referring to the wearer in somewhat more derogatory terms. That was a surprise.

Sorry, went off on one there.... oops

My feelings exactly ...
 
The best approach is to not cling to your expectations. By doing so you're sure to be disappointed. With any smartphone, not just Apple there's far too many variables and compromises for the manufacturer in order to build a widely sought after device. Apple does quite well with just a few exceptions.
 
OIS in the 6s would have been great. I believe the OIS in the 6s+ is now for video and stills, but don't quote me on that!
 
I can't help but feel very disappointed that Apple chose to keep the Lens aperture at F2.2 I was expecting F2.0 which I think is a reasonable upgrade. These tiny senors need all the light they can get and I just don't get it. I have to seriously consider the LG G4 mainly for the camera.


Then buy it please...
 
I'm not sure what people expect: there is a tremendous pressure to make phones smaller, so that the camera has to fit into an enclosure rather than the other way around. And once you realize how tiny the sensor and the lenses are, I think you have to temper your expectations.

Once you set the right expectations, the camera of the iPhone 6s can be great: if you have enough light and don't need separation using shallow depth of field, it'll be a great camera. For people who used to have a point and shoot, it could replace it because it's the “best camera” (because it's the one you have with you).

If you have any serious interest in quality or are used to the quality and capabilities of a large sensor camera (4/3 and up), and you use the same bar on the iPhone, you will always be disappointed.
 
I'm disappointed, too.

Guess which is which?

skyline-6plus-vs-6splus.jpg


6 Plus on the left, 6s Plus on the right.
 
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I'm pretty happy with it. I love taking nature pictures and it will be nice with that. The 4K video is a plus as well. I'll admit it's still quite behind DSLR but it seems like quite a nice upgrade to the 6's camera
 
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