is APPLE still trying to resolve wifi issues with the M1?

[Potatochobit]

I have an M1 PRO
sometimes it will drop wifi, like on a video call
I have updated to the latest OS software and was thinking maybe I need to bring the laptop in for warranty repair
but then I saw alot of other people were having issues

 

[txemsdoc]

My wireless drops every day and websites can't load. It doesn't ever give an error that I'm not connected to the internet, it just sits there forever trying to load. It is fixed by toggling wifi off and on which is annoying. Love to hear suggestions to fix it. 14" MBP, M1 Max, Ventura 13.4.1

 

[Potatochobit]

If your router supports 5GHz switch to that and it may stop dropping wifi, it does on mine but I would still like the problem fixed too.

 

[njvm]

I have a 14" M1 Max and I have not had any issues with WiFi dropping out, although I use a 5G channel

 

[daveo228i]

I have an M1. Bought it shortly after they were introduced. Two years or so, and never a problem of any kind.

 

[iMacDragon]

My wifi is known to stop working like this on m2 too and need toggling on/off sometimes, I think both generations use same or similar wifi chipset

 

[stanft]

Hi everyone,

I am also having the same problems with macOS Sonoma on MBP M2 Max. My wifi stops working quite regularly and I have to switch it off and on again. After reactivating, the issues are resolved instantly.

And the strange thing is: I can still ping i.e. websites like google.com. So the network connection is not completely gone. But I cannot browse the same websites with Safari or Chrome, and several applications are not launched by macOS until I have reset the wifi.

I have absolutely no clue what may cause this problems. My older Intel MBP does not have these problems connected to the same wifi network.

Best regards,
Stephan

 

[Serge88]

I have the same problem, MB air M2 Ventura, occasionally, Safari and Chrome can't open a website but ping works. Usually after a sleep.

 

[stanft]

I am still fearing that this might be some hardware-related problem. But apart from the „dropouts“ the WiFi connection works flawlessly.

 

[Serge88]

I always turn it off when I don't use it and it seems to solve the issue

 

[stanft]

I always turn it off when I don't use it and it seems to solve the issue

The wifi or the mac?

I for myself haven't found any pattern. Sometimes, the wifi stays stable for the whole day, sometimes it drops every hour.

 

[Serge88]

The macbook, wifi works ok with iPad and PC.

 

[flybass]

Happens very infrequently for me. Maybe once a week on 14 inch M1 Max.

 

[Queen6]

Mac's are picky with routers, always have been likely always will be. I have no issue with my M1 MBP or older Intel MBP's and they are online for months on end. Mostly the router switches them to 5GHz automatically. Those that want to resolve need to change their router. Far as Apple is concerned there is no issue...

Q-6

 

[Serge88]

Mac's are picky with routers, always have been likely always will be. I have no issue with my M1 MBP or older Intel MBP's and they are online for months on end. Mostly the router switches them to 5GHz automatically. Those that want to resolve need to change their router. Far as Apple is concerned there is no issue...

Q-6

I have an Airport Time Capsule for router.

 

[Queen6]

I have an Airport Time Capsule for router.

And how old is that? I have a Huawei smart router with mesh network. Things change, you either update the HW or live with the disconnects. Down to four Mac's now from the aging 2011 15" MBP to the M1 MBP, none have any network issues with two up 24/7/365...

Q-6

 

[ColdCase]

I had to replace my Time capsule a few years ago because of broadcast storms which caused devices to slow or disconnect. I still use it for network time machine backups, but the router and wireless access function is done elsewhere.

Some routers play better with Macs than others, but its usually the wireless access points or the ether that are the source of problems, especially if you try to mesh. Apple used to sell the most compatible routers and access points in their store.

Connections dropping randomly but pings not is a typical symptom of wireless interference. You need to snoop whats going on on your wireless network to find the least crowded channel, or just try different wifi radio channels and see what works best.

If you are going to replace the router, shop carefully. Many routers need routine maintenance (monthly reset).

 

[giffut]

No no no, the third party routers are not the problem here.

We have a couple of dozens of devices wih WIFI chips ranging from about ten years old to brand new, running Windows, Linux, macos, embedded, Android - the M1 Macbook is the only one experiencing this issue.

WIFI is a standard, like USB. Since the transition to M based chips, including the T variants in the last intel models, standard compliance by Apple is going down big time, especially USB.

 

[stanft]

No no no, the third party routers are not the problem here.

We have a couple of dozens of devices wih WIFI chips ranging from about ten years old to brand new, running Windows, Linux, macos, embedded, Android - the M1 Macbook is the only one experiencing this issue.

WIFI is a standard, like USB. Since the transition to M based chips, including the T variants in the last intel models, standard compliance by Apple is going down big time, especially USB.

Same for me. I have several older Intel-based MacBooks which don't show any Wifi problems. The same is given for other device types here at home. Only the M2 MacBook has these problems.

 

[ColdCase]

Apparently you guys don't know what you don't know. You have it backwards, like the conversations years ago. My M2 macbook pro and M1 studio have zero problems with my home or work WIFI devices and router. It does not have USB issues.

The industry is full of not fully compliant WIFI and routers that pass themselves off as compliant devices, they are somewhat compliant. Well known brands, let alone Chinese knock offs, thrown devices out there in hopes that they will stick. When they get complaints they sometimes fix them. Few spend the money to do real testing to verify compliance as they price themselves out of the consumer market. Their compliance is plug it in the power light comes on ... good enough. Look at the mess mesh is. Its a well known issue with consumer grade and a few commercial grade devices from companies that use a business model that expects customers to test their products. Those not in the know will blame the complaining device, which is actually not the problem. There are outfits that buy chips that claim to be compliant and depend on that, but in the end are not fully compliant.

Sounds like the M2 Laptops may be a little picky about compliance or perhaps in the effort to support higher bit rates, compromise resistance to interference.. or perhaps there are a batch of defective wifi chips or antennas.. life is full of compromise.

 

[Serge88]

I only got my MB air two months ago and the problem doesn't happen frequently but once I did some tests. Both browsers (Chrome and Safari) was waiting and waiting and waiting but ping could resolve the URL and I got a fast respond time. I suspect the issue is something related to the browser.

Now I don't let my M2 sleep forever, I shutdown after using it. I didn't see the problem so far.

 

[dmccloud]

No no no, the third party routers are not the problem here.

We have a couple of dozens of devices wih WIFI chips ranging from about ten years old to brand new, running Windows, Linux, macos, embedded, Android - the M1 Macbook is the only one experiencing this issue.

WIFI is a standard, like USB. Since the transition to M based chips, including the T variants in the last intel models, standard compliance by Apple is going down big time, especially USB.

The M2 Macs have Wifi 6E. While in many cases that can improve wireless performance even on WiFi 6 routers, there can be issues that arise from routers that either aren't fully compliant with the WiFi spec or have some sort of IP filtering/firewall running that conflicts with Mac OS and how it handles the same types of things.