I think when you charge only to 80% the battery will drain faster and you need to charge more in a year, compared to that you charge to 100%. In both cases, the battery will degrade no matter what. Was there any actual real-life experience or computer simulation comparing both cases which reached a conclusion that we should charge between 20% to 80%, rather than 100% fully?
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is it really better to charge between 20% and 80%?
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The engineers at Apple are well versed in the design of charging circuits, voltage regulation and battery health. Best to follow Apple recommendations and not out guess the charging optimizations built into the products.
Time to do some reading:
agreed people who are not engineers are always that ones trying to outthink the engineers.
Apple has zero incentive to make an iPhone battery last six years. Their battery charging optimizations are designed around a one to two year life span.
Apple charges a reasonable $49/$69 on older/newer phones for a battery replacement. I just broke an SE1 changing the battery myself. Should've just paid Apple $49 to do it lol. I wouldn't worry too much about it *except* to not use fast charging too often.
Since my 13 Pro I've been using a 15W wireless charger which gets the phone quite hot. My battery health is at 97% after just 6mos. My son uses a 13. He's a much heavier user than I am but he only uses wired charging with a 12W iPad charger. His phone is still at 100%. My previous 12 Pro and X were using a 10W wireless charger and the battery health stayed higher for longer. I broke my 10W charger or I would've gone back to it.
Since my 13 Pro I've been using a 15W wireless charger which gets the phone quite hot. My battery health is at 97% after just 6mos. My son uses a 13. He's a much heavier user than I am but he only uses wired charging with a 12W iPad charger. His phone is still at 100%. My previous 12 Pro and X were using a 10W wireless charger and the battery health stayed higher for longer. I broke my 10W charger or I would've gone back to it.
Then why not do what MSI does? Gives you an option right from the beginning to charge it to 80%
Maybe, but corporate engineers aren't being paid to be entirely altruistic.
I seriously doubt that they are entirely responsible for determining the length of product longevity and profitability.
I have always ignored all recommendations and charge any way I want as often and full as I want.
Just one example: There is an iPhone X in my family that gets charged multiple times a day, and rarely allowed to go below 80%.
The battery health is still 90%.
But there are people on here saying the batteries in their iPhone 12 and 13 are totally wrecked even with meticulous charging habits.
I believe them, but I don't get it.
Just one example: There is an iPhone X in my family that gets charged multiple times a day, and rarely allowed to go below 80%.
The battery health is still 90%.
But there are people on here saying the batteries in their iPhone 12 and 13 are totally wrecked even with meticulous charging habits.
I believe them, but I don't get it.
All I know is that I got the iPhone 11 on release, when was that about Sept 2019? Every day it sits on a wireless charging stand. All through COVID it never actually left it much given I was WFH and still am. So I have done nothing but left the phone to decide what it needs to do, and it will figure it out. 11% loss after 2.5 years of not caring about how it charges. I'll take it.
Just use it. Don't overthink thing, let battery Optimization do its thing.
Most of the time I’m going 100% to <10% (sometimes just <20%) and back to 100%
But I’m trying to keep the battery most of the time between 20-80% and above and below that only for a short while if possible
But I’m trying to keep the battery most of the time between 20-80% and above and below that only for a short while if possible
I got 6.5/7.5 yrs from my iPhone5/iPad2 combo charging ~80-20 using a light timer. My Aug ‘19 XR running a custom optimization (cycling even lower) is arguably still worthy of Apple SOT spec.
A light timer only cost 5sec/day to ‘manage’ and with today’s shortcut automations, smartplugs, and USB dongle options, it’s now zero effort to manage and less hassle than a Apple battery swap.
A light timer only cost 5sec/day to ‘manage’ and with today’s shortcut automations, smartplugs, and USB dongle options, it’s now zero effort to manage and less hassle than a Apple battery swap.