Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

theMarble

macrumors 65816
Original poster
Sep 27, 2020
1,020
1,497
Earth, Sol System, Alpha Quadrant
Keeping the story short, last time I upgraded my daily driver, a 2015 15" to Monterey (around the 12.2~12.3 period), there were many glitches related to unstable Bluetooth, random disconnects of external drives and more. I downgraded back to Big Sur and the problems have gone away. However, I'm curious as to whether any problems remain in 12.6/12.6.1 or have they been solved?

Interestingly I've had zero problems (even back with 12.1) on my ThinkPad X270 (via OC).
 

DFWHD

macrumors regular
Aug 6, 2011
149
28
I had concerns about moving from Big Sur to Monterey on my 16 month old 2018 MM over the past year after reading the forums, however also purchased a M1 MBA in April for travel and light home use and had zero issues with Monterey on the MBA. I also noticed that there were not as many negative posts lately so went ahead and upgraded the MM last weekend and am happy to report absolutely no issues whatsoever. With the last few MacOS releases, I've found it better to use an N-1 approach and wait till the next version is announced to upgrade to allow the kinks to be worked out. Just my approach, not saying it is what everyone should do...
 

HobeSoundDarryl

macrumors G5
I share in OPs "unexpected ejections" of external drives and experience random crashes/sleep for up to a minute or two of ethernet port several times every day on a new Studio Ultra which came with what would be a called a fresh install of Monterey. I didn't "migrate" from my older Intels and instead went to the trouble of manually moving files I actually wanted onto the new one and installing only apps that I actually use again from the App Store, etc. It's the cleanest possible way to migrate and minimize bringing accumulated kludge from older Macs.

Unexpected ejection and random ethernet reboots(?) persist with 12.6.1. I've been testing at each point upgrade and even had foolish hope that just maybe this latest point-point upgrade might fix these bugs. Nope. Many "unexpected ejections" in the last 2 days- some as quick as only a few minutes, two where an enclosure made it for about 5 hours. The SAME enclosure with the SAME cable connected to either Intel Mac running macOS BEFORE Big Sur was stable for a few YEARS and is stable again when I test to rule out that the enclosure itself is going bad.

It looks like hope turns to Ventura finally getting around to putting the "universal" back in USB on Macs.

Personally, I think the ethernet issue is directly related... that all ports have momentary "blinks" of sleep/crash & reboot and thus, while many enclosures can roll with such blinks, others "unexpectedly eject." I suspect port management code itself has a bug(s) and those quick blinks of ethernet may be the culprit behind potential quick blinks of USB too. That's personal speculation based on the best deduction I can do and may be entirely wrong. However, I strongly suspect if I could boot this Ultra with a macOS BEFORE Big Sur, both problems would be resolved.

OP should note: not ALL enclosures unexpectedly disconnect and I don't see tons of posts about my ethernet observation either (though there are certainly many more than only mine)... so a good idea if you are interested is to either backup your existing internal to a bootable external or install latest Monterey on an external and boot into that to try latest Monterey with your own mix of hardware. If it works fine with your stuff (be sure to give it a few days at least), consider making it permanent. If not, it's the easiest way to switch back to a macOS version that is more stable for your needs.

If I get tempted to gamble on Ventura, that's how I'll do it through at least 3 or 4 point upgrades. Hypothetically, Ventura should bring many optimization for Silicon Macs including Ultra so it is VERY TEMPTING to go for it.
 
Last edited:
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.