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Is Monterrey finally ready for upgrade now w 12.3?
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macOS Monterey 12.3.1 released on 31 March fixes “actively exploited” vulnerabilities that are not present in Big Sur.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT213220
I’ve been using Monterey on a 2015 MBP and on a 2019 MBA for quite a while now and it has been rock solid.
EDIT: None of the problems reported by other users here. In fact, no problems whatsoever. I am keeping an eye on my memory usage and pressure (no problems) and I use network sharing (no problems), and naturally no crashes.
YMMV. In the past I’ve had a situation with a new OS (can’t remember which) when other people were reporting no problems, yet I was experiencing weirds restarts. The truth is that sometimes an installation/upgrade could go wrong and/or one can have an unfortunate combination of certain software/versions conspiring to generate issues.
EDIT: None of the problems reported by other users here. In fact, no problems whatsoever. I am keeping an eye on my memory usage and pressure (no problems) and I use network sharing (no problems), and naturally no crashes.
YMMV. In the past I’ve had a situation with a new OS (can’t remember which) when other people were reporting no problems, yet I was experiencing weirds restarts. The truth is that sometimes an installation/upgrade could go wrong and/or one can have an unfortunate combination of certain software/versions conspiring to generate issues.
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IDN, but facing a weird RAM leak problem on MBP 13 2017. After some time of Mac usage (app.4-5 hours) Finder starts to use a lot of memory, more than 1-2Gb (Relaunch will fix that). And some apps are crashing to the Desktop after a while (I thought that it's the problem with specific apps but no; on Big Sur no problems at all)
MacBook Air 2021 (Monterey) doesn't have such problem, but sometimes it's going crazy with heat and memory pressure
MacBook Air 2021 (Monterey) doesn't have such problem, but sometimes it's going crazy with heat and memory pressure
Sounds like I might as well wait for 12.4. Big Sur works really well with a rare occasional hiccup when it starts to ask for keychain password and almost freezes, fixed by a restart and won’t see it again for a weeks at least, it came after last security fix 11.3
Lots of bugs in Monterey 12.3.1. I would wait for 12.4.
I was use to the fairly stable Mojave on my MacBook Pro 2014. Just got a MacBook Air M1 2020 which came with Monterey, and wow it is a buggy mess!
I was use to the fairly stable Mojave on my MacBook Pro 2014. Just got a MacBook Air M1 2020 which came with Monterey, and wow it is a buggy mess!
What app is causing the keychain password ask? Or what does the message say?
Beta hardware + beta software
there's no one answer to this; everyone has different experiences. am fine here on monterey (every version, betas and finals). lots of people are fine on monterey. others have issues. it's ALWAYS like that, regardless of OS, version. so you pick a time when you're ready to dive in, & deal with any potential consequences... and get on with life.
It's still the most buggy OS I've had for years. Using it with an M1 Air and I constantly have USB issues. Especially with audio. Running 12.3.1 so now recent updates have fixed the issues. No other feature in Monterey is useful for me, so if it was simple to downgrade I would have done it instantly
For my experience Monterey is buggy in a MacBook Pro 15" Mid 2019, the two main problems I have are:
- Double tab with touchpad doesn't work 50% of the time when i touch it, I try to do with, it the only way is to press it.
- WIFI doesn't work after wake up ones a week, I had to reboot the laptop to solve it.
- Double tab with touchpad doesn't work 50% of the time when i touch it, I try to do with, it the only way is to press it.
- WIFI doesn't work after wake up ones a week, I had to reboot the laptop to solve it.
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Given where we are in the year and what I saw of release notes for 12.4, if bugs are a concern, I'm suspecting the wait should be for 13.<something>.
If they arrive, maybe 12.6 or 12.7 might surprise before 13 but I find myself more and more hoping for a WWDC announcement of Snow Monterey for a year or two. Brand new Studio Ultra with fresh installs of everything instead of migration and key things- especially externally-connected hardware ("unexpected eject"), speeds that fall short of specs and spinning beach ball delays for low-demand actions- are frustrating to me. If it was possible to install High Sierra on this "latest & greatest" Mac, I would have already done it by now... perhaps also testing the last version of Catalina too. Most of what I've gathered about the bigger bugs seem to have started with Big Sur and simply persist.
Suggestion if one wants to proceed anyway: use an external drive to duplicate the internal one, then upgrade one of them and try it for a while, saving new files you create/update to a separate drive during this trial period. If all is good for you, stick with it. If not, rolling back is easy and you'll only need to manually put newly created files where they belong in the old system. Caution: select software updates prior version files so you can't "go back" for those... but, in those cases, just make a copy of the file in the new system and maybe some notes to yourself about what you changed in case you need to "go back".
This is the best way to see for yourself with no risk other than a little time to deal with and/or recreate newly created/edited files on the old system if you have to go back.
If they arrive, maybe 12.6 or 12.7 might surprise before 13 but I find myself more and more hoping for a WWDC announcement of Snow Monterey for a year or two. Brand new Studio Ultra with fresh installs of everything instead of migration and key things- especially externally-connected hardware ("unexpected eject"), speeds that fall short of specs and spinning beach ball delays for low-demand actions- are frustrating to me. If it was possible to install High Sierra on this "latest & greatest" Mac, I would have already done it by now... perhaps also testing the last version of Catalina too. Most of what I've gathered about the bigger bugs seem to have started with Big Sur and simply persist.
Suggestion if one wants to proceed anyway: use an external drive to duplicate the internal one, then upgrade one of them and try it for a while, saving new files you create/update to a separate drive during this trial period. If all is good for you, stick with it. If not, rolling back is easy and you'll only need to manually put newly created files where they belong in the old system. Caution: select software updates prior version files so you can't "go back" for those... but, in those cases, just make a copy of the file in the new system and maybe some notes to yourself about what you changed in case you need to "go back".
This is the best way to see for yourself with no risk other than a little time to deal with and/or recreate newly created/edited files on the old system if you have to go back.
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