Is Sonoma the OSX version of Vista!

[Matty_TypeR]

Having tried Sonoma and ventura, sticking with monterey by the way Has Sonoma become Apples version of Windows Vista?

All this built in BS should be App's if you wish to use them. what we want is a solid OSX with out the BS as a base to use. only install what you want to use, not fill the OS up with stuff most wont use and buggy with it. Its like a Toy OS reminds me of the Vista disaster from microsoft.

An OSX version with solid performance, and install what YOU wish to use. The worst OSX version ever is Sonoma. Like the Apple watch just a gimmick wrist band, all i want from a watch is the time and date, thats it, easy. All i want from an OS is to load the program's i want to use, not full of BS option's running i will never use.

Rant over!

 

[fisherking]

haha. what? how many new default apps are there? (i think just freeform; 59megs).

sonoma is great so far. as of beta 4, ALL my apps work. all of them. everything is fast, stable. safari flies. a few quirks but it IS a beta. so, no idea what you're on about. one more small app that you can choose to ignore is not a big deal.

anyway, it's just 'Mac OS', since 2016, no longer "OSX". and no idea why it's 'the worst' (or, for that matter, why people can't have watches that do many things). 🙄

 

[saudor]

No. Monterey is the OSX version of vista.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/monterey-apples-vista.2328187/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/tpn935

 

[Emmanuel.th]

No. Sonoma is better than Ventura (on MacBook Air M2)
I saw many comment and news about Apple rewrite foundation core of os with swift language
wish mean everything should faster because software don't need to translate to legacy language.
Yes. for me so fast and smoothing animation.
and Yes. Sonoma has some or many bug from 3rd party app I think they should fix them when Sonoma public release

 

[Janichsan]

Has Sonoma become Apples version of Windows Vista?

No. Monterey is the OSX version of vista.

You are both wrong. OS X Lion was Apple's Vista.

 

[Odessa]

i agree stock apps should be fully removable like it is on the iphone without messing up with SIP. I don't even need safari or textedit. That said, I think sonoma is a fine OS.

 

[blicked]

Just let me get rid of Music.

 

[fisherking]

i agree stock apps should be fully removable like it is on the iphone without messing up with SIP. I don't even need safari or textedit. That said, I think sonoma is a fine OS.

apple has had stock apps since forever (designed to not be deleted, altho there are ways around that).

so, how much time does anyone spend IN the applications folder, and why stress over this? for example, safari & text edit together is under 16mb.

 

[Populus]

No. Sonoma is better than Ventura (on MacBook Air M2)
I saw many comment and news about Apple rewrite foundation core of os with swift language
wish mean everything should faster because software don't need to translate to legacy language.
Yes. for me so fast and smoothing animation.
and Yes. Sonoma has some or many bug from 3rd party app I think they should fix them when Sonoma public release

Hi, I’d be really interested in reading some sources about Sonoma having most of its core rewritten in Swift, I think that would be awesome. Thank you!

 

[andeify]

I would prefer there to be only the basic of apps, I don't need Stocks, Voice Memos, AppleTV, Reminders, Podcasts, Photo Booth, News, FreeForm, Chess or Books. But I guess they don't take up that much space, it just makes scrolling through apps longer.

I disagree with the OP regarding the Apple Watch, but I get what you mean by Toy OS, Apple seems to be going more that way in terms of design. Take the iCloud.com front Page, it looks like its aimed at those aged 6 to 12 with the memoji things.

 

[fisherking]

I would prefer there to be only the basic of apps, I don't need Stocks, Voice Memos, AppleTV, Reminders, Podcasts, Photo Booth, News, FreeForm, Chess or Books. But I guess they don't take up that much space, it just makes scrolling through apps longer.

I disagree with the OP regarding the Apple Watch, but I get what you mean by Toy OS, Apple seems to be going more that way in terms of design. Take the iCloud.com front Page, it looks like its aimed at those aged 6 to 12 with the memoji things.

why scroll thru apps? between launchpad, the dock, aliases, spotlight... there are so many ways to get to (just) the apps you need.

 

[andeify]

why scroll thru apps? between launchpad, the dock, aliases, spotlight... there are so many ways to get to (just) the apps you need.

Its not the way I locate the apps I use day-to-day, its just a silly example of the tiny drawback to having more apps than you need.

 

[fisherking]

Its not the way I locate the apps I use day-to-day, its just a silly example of the tiny drawback to having more apps than you need.

then not sure why it matters. for example, there are a number of apps in the Utilities folder, but i never go there. and there a lot of folders in the Library folder, but i never need to scroll thru them.

apple, for better or worse, feels that some apps are essential; so it goes. but not seeing how their presence is a drawback.

 

[andeify]

then not sure why it matters. for example, there are a number of apps in the Utilities folder, but i never go there. and there a lot of folders in the Library folder, but i never need to scroll thru them.

apple, for better or worse, feels that some apps are essential; so it goes. but not seeing how their presence is a drawback.

Its not worth arguing about, and Im not trying to say your view is wrong either, this is just what I feel about macOS.

 

[loby]

If you been around on Macrumors for some time, you would notice that EVERY OS in beta or when it first comes out, people say the same things...you can probably cut and paste the same comments every year and users would not know..

I personally (even today) am not sure "which" macOS is "better" than the other(s). It depends on your Mac (what year) and personal taste. Some of course are a hit, others not so...

So "Yes", we can look back at the performance of an OS once it is official, but we cannot make hard judgements for macOS Sonoma yet or right now since it is still in beta testing.

When Snow Leopard first came out, it was so so...then later (by the end of its cycle), it was a decent OS. Worked fast, performance was good (my 2.0 USB ports STILL out-perform some times other Macs with 3.0 to USB-C ports (it is not a hardware issue)...go figure. I have grown use to the new interface and the new coat of paint for macOS, so as of today, Snow Leopard looks very dated...but...performance is still wonderful on my old MacBook Pro..still (with the apps it runs). Hope macOS Sonoma can achieve similar status.

Lion...well..for me it worked well, but you had to have at least 16 GB of memory. Mountain Lion...decent.

The rest are hit and misses, AGAIN depending on what Mac you have. macOS Mojave ended up good. High Sierra at the end was decent. the rest up to Ventura again depends on your machine.

I liked...and stress the word "liked" Ventura UNTIL the latest update on my M1 MacBook Pro. I might have to go back to Monterrey even this late in Ventura's life cycle due to instabilities and irritations the last few updates caused.

 

[George Dawes]

Was lion the os you could search by size but not view or sort by size ?

Whichever one that was I nominate as worst ever

 

[Corefile]

Vista with SP2 was pretty stable and reliable by removing a lot of the earlier hiccups.

 

[Cromulent]

Vista with SP2 was pretty stable and reliable by removing a lot of the earlier hiccups.

I liked Vista, but then I also liked Windows 8 so maybe I'm just weird.

 

[loby]

I liked Vista, but then I also liked Windows 8 so maybe I'm just weird.

Join the weird crew, I liked both too.

 

[gpat]

You are both wrong. OS X Lion was Apple's Vista.

Lion was an amazing release and it sold me definitely on OSX as my main OS.
Just imagine using your Mac without Mission Control, Autosave, full-screen apps, Airdrop or full disk encryption... all of those debuted with Lion.
Mission Control alone was such a massive leap ahead for usability on laptops.

 

[Corefile]

I liked Vista, but then I also liked Windows 8 so maybe I'm just weird.

Nothing wrong if you Think Different(tm).

 

[yellowhelicopter]

Sonoma is not OSX. X is dead for a long time already.

 

[Corefile]

Sonoma is not OSX. X is dead for a long time already.

macOS Twitter? Did Elon buy AAPL now?

 

[koelsh]

In some respects maybe. Monterey and Ventura's betas (and final releases) were problematic enough for me to avoid Sonoma's. I'm likely going to hold off on upgrading for a point release or three. In the same vein Vista was exciting to see previews of but when its problems became apparent I decided to sit that one out.

Personally Yosemite is my vote for "Apple's Vista" It had the largest version to version drop in performance I've experienced and it's when macOS started losing all contrast. Since then apps have all been a sea of white or black frosted glass.

 

[nistromo]

Windows Vista was Microsofts version of OS X Tiger 😂