We are way off topic, so last thing. If you're still paying the same for your service, plus the cost of the hardware then you are paying too much. The cost of service should have gone down when contracts/subsidies ended. Overall most people's bills remained the same after the change to seperate device payments because of the adjustment/discounts to service. maybe you wanna look into it. have a good one.
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iPhone X Is the latest wave of attacks on iPhones and iPhone byers orchestrated?
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We are way off topic, so last thing. If you're still paying the same for your service, plus the cost of the hardware then you are paying too much. The cost of service should have gone down when contracts/subsidies ended. Overall most people's bills remained the same after the change to seperate device payments because of the adjustment/discounts to service. maybe you wanna look into it. have a good one.
Ha ha. I was a bit confused until i got to the "trophy house - beach wife"
BMWs are garbage btw. Worst car i ever had the misfortune to own.
They are a bit like trophy wifes. Nice to look at but dreadful to own
People are just warning others who may not be aware of the current state of affairs at Apple to beware based on their personal experience. No "fake news" going on about that Mr. Cook. Its just balancing out all of the "everything just works" myth that they're probably expecting. Flickering displays in the current year imac models, the green line across the displays on the new iphone X, the gunked up faulty keyboards on the macbook pros. Its not all a conspiracy, just helping the uninitiated know what to expect in addition to all of the marketing hype which is misleading to say the least. $120 million and the man still cant orchestrate a decent product line. Its not just about design issues, aka "the notch". Theres something more sinister going on in Cupertino than just poor design choices and the overpaid leadership that would rather preach their social agendas than make quality products are to blame, not disgruntled users on a tech forum.
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Never had a forced power shut down on any long term Android I've ever had. Your battery life just gets slowly worse over time.
Standard battery wear and tear really.
Outside of the United States we’ve always paid in full for iPhones. They are not suddenly costing money in Europe as they always have cost real money.
Not everybody here is American and been lucky to have had a free iPhone on contract in the past so that point applies to one of the global markets only.
Indeed, BMW’s are dreadfully unreliable. My 5 Series had constant engine sensor errors and it’s put me off them for life. They are incredibly popular on the roads though here and don’t have the status they may have elsewhere. They are pretty cheap secondhand too. Much like Audi’s though the perception of a BMW driver is that of a ****. Drives up everybody backside and cuts other drivers up. It’s why when you drive one here nobody gives way to you because they automatically assume you’re a self entitled pompous nob. I found that out in the 2 years I owned mine lol.Ha ha. I was a bit confused until i got to the "trophy house - beach wife"
BMWs are garbage btw. Worst car i ever had the misfortune to own.
They are a bit like trophy wifes. Nice to look at but dreadful to own
I can only speak for myself, which typically resides in American situations. I apologize if I offended you or any other international forum members.
Based on your stance in other threads I assume you bought this car used and out of warranty.
I own three BMWs, all under warranty, and they are extremely reliable and will cost me zero dollars out-of-pocket in the three years I will own each before moving on to new ones.
Luxury brands have luxury consequences for those trying to sneak in the back door.
The car was 2 years old when I owned it so it had 12 months of warranty left. The work was done under warranty but was massively inconvenient. I wouldn’t buy new as the depreciation on BMWs is bigger than any other brand in Europe. They are sales and rep cars mostly so the secondhand market for them is huge.
BMW is a semi luxury brand here just above Ford and Vauxhall and about on par with VW. Most BMW’s on British roads are company cars for sales reps. The ones at my company drive 3 Series as the deals are cheap.
That.... is not “current state of affairs”, that has been going on since forever. Every year: “I have been an Apple fan since Apple I but Apple has lost it and product XX is the worst ever and the YY issue is the worst scandal -gate thing ever and fire Jony Ive and all they care about is making it thinner and not for pros and they charge way too much” - nothing new.
What is new is the intensity and calling other people to return their phones, etc.
I can’t say I’ve seen anybody here call for others to return their phones? Seems a bit stupid as it makes no difference whatsoever what somebody else owns.
Yes...but only if it's purchase new and not used. Used means you are a pleasant......Lol
And buying new means you’re a mug lol. Only kidding
The funny thing is a 12 month old 5 Series can depreciate as much as £16k with just 15k miles on the clock. Most brand new BMW’s here are company cars and private owners put personalised plates on to hide the age.
I’m sure an iPhone X holds more of its value than your average sales reps car.
All luxury car makers produce budget products allowing people into the brand at budget car prices. BMW and Mercedes make entry level cars for $29,000, about the same price as a comparably equipped Honda. What that means is that those cars are "semi-luxury". We agree. It doesn't mean that the 5's and 7's and E's and S's are non-luxury. They surely are.
Back to Apple, they've got the SE and the 7 to fill that semi-luxury segment. The iPhone 8 is the E Class, the X is the S Class. It's smart business for a producer of luxury notebooks and electronics to diversify their most important business segment.
A 5 Series may be a luxury model in the States but not in Europe. It’s semi luxury and a sales reps car of choice much like an Audi A6. The 1 series and 3 Series offer more economical options beyond that. BMW’s are not status symbols here because they are among the most popular cars on our roads. iPhones are similar in that they are an every mans phone and owned by many demographics.
Most executives here use Plus model iPhones I would say as they bridge the gap to the iPad. You’ll also find they appeal to teenagers and young professionals. The X is expensive and offers very little extra if anything so it’s difficult to say who it appeals to yet.
Someone feels ripped off by Apple and they want to get others to hate Apple as well. Not surprising, I don't understand why people would think it is some scheme by Samsung.
That thread looks like it was started by an iPhone owner, not a Samsung employee. Take off your tin foil hats guys.
And Samsung vs Apple is like Ford vs Honda. Comparing to brands like Ferrari or BMW is a wish.
Now that Apple has responded to the hysterics regarding their power management algorithm, the orchestrated campaign has been kicked in to high gear, trying to further influence a weak minded public's perception that Apple isn't doing this to extend the useful working life of older iPhones with degraded batteries.
The shills and haters are painfully obvious.
The shills and haters are painfully obvious.
I think what is more likely is that the design and price is such a talking point that it is just getting that much more attention. I remember similar times when the iPhone 6 series came out. The Android trolls came in with playground taunts about how Android had larger screens first. I see the same kind of immaturity this time around. Marketing 101: all attention is good attention. Apple will be fine.
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Just the battery lifespan, which is not new or unique to Apple. What was new was Apple attempting to prolong the lifespan of older devices with degraded batteries rather than simply letting the devices fail outright. A battery replacement is perfectly valid and I do not see Samsung offering a similar deal. They drop their old models like hot potatoes.