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Is there not a law against this?

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Jasongarza2

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I have noticed apple is getting more ballsie with making you upgrade in order to have a new feature. I can understand operating systems ie. not being able to upgrade because you have a g5 and it is not compatible but now with Siri which there is no other reason for not being able to upgrade other than to make money and the other day I wanted to download a free app in the Mac app store that there shouldn't be any reason why it won't run on my 2011 MacBook pro with leopard but it said I had to up grade to lion. I think this is ********.
 
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*LTD*

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Jasongarza2 said:
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I have noticed apple is getting more ballsie with making you upgrade in order to have a new feature.
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Please.

It's their product. They can pull every single Apple product tomorrow and shut down production, as long as they honour their support/warranty agreements.

Upgrading is purely your choice. You are not required to do it in order to maintain a functional product.
 
SteveAbootman

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No, there isn't a law. And this doesn't even sound like an Apple problem; the Dev chose not to support Snow Leopard. Might want to send them feedback instead.
 
jackc

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That's how bad laws get passed. Someone wants something, so there ought to be a law...
 
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Jasongarza2

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Siri is a apple product and the Mac app I wanted to download was a apple product.
 
maflynn

maflynn

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This not a new phenomenon, apple has always pushed users to newer OS's with apps. You want some from the Mac App Store you need the current OS, you want a new app (that takes advantages of the new APIs) then you must stay current.

There is nothing wrong with this approach either, you as a consumer embrace this, or you find a different platform that fits your needs.
 
KnightWRX

KnightWRX

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Apple does not package its frameworks and APIs separately from their OS, like Microsoft does (and even Microsoft does this to some extend, with newer Direct X versions only being available on newer versions of Windows as an example). Also, since they do not release packages containing only their runtime or the source to build such a runtime, you can't easily only upgrade the runtime components and frameworks of older OSes, like you could for QT or GTK or wxWidget or Xlib on Linux.

Them's the breaks with proprietary software, you're at the mercy of the single vendor and its upgrade cycle. If you want true computing freedom, go with open source/free software solutions. Just be advised that there are compromises to such an approach (the bazaar vs the cathedral).
 
SteveAbootman

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Jasongarza2 said:
Siri is a apple product and the Mac app I wanted to download was a apple product.
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The only free software Apple has on the App Store I know of is XCode or iBooks Author. You can still run Xcode 3.2.6 on Snow Leopard and download from the dev site from Apple. As far as iBooks, this was software released well after Snow Leopard and Apple has no obligation to make new applications compatible with old versions of their OS.
 
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AdrianK

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Jasongarza2 said:
the other day I wanted to download a free app in the Mac app store that there shouldn't be any reason why it won't run on my 2011 MacBook pro with leopard but it said I had to up grade to lion. I think this is ********.
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You mean Snow Leopard, Leopard won't run on a 2011 and it doesn't have the App Store.

Apple isn't saying you need to upgrade to use an application, the developer who decided to use a 10.7 API in their application did.


throAU said:
Then upgrade to the current release.
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Exactly. It's a $30 upgrade, why all the fuss?
 
thewitt

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Jasongarza2 said:
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I have noticed apple is getting more ballsie with making you upgrade in order to have a new feature. I can understand operating systems ie. not being able to upgrade because you have a g5 and it is not compatible but now with Siri which there is no other reason for not being able to upgrade other than to make money and the other day I wanted to download a free app in the Mac app store that there shouldn't be any reason why it won't run on my 2011 MacBook pro with leopard but it said I had to up grade to lion. I think this is ********.
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Switch to Windows
 
Gav2k

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Do you get a lifetime warrenty and support with a car? Microwave? Cooker? Erm nope!

Why should apple or any company support a device? Dosnt make u $$$
 
KnightWRX

KnightWRX

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Jasongarza2 said:
It's greed by no means is my hardware old or out of date I got it a year ago!
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I have still have a Pentium II computer, running up-to-date software. Again, open source/free software is there to give 2nd lives to these older machines after the vendors stopped supporting them. If you want to continue using the hardware, look into those options.

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SteveAbootman said:
The only free software Apple has on the App Store I know of is XCode or iBooks Author. You can still run Xcode 3.2.6 on Snow Leopard
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XCode 4 runs on Snow Leopard has well. It's just not free.

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Gav2k said:
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Do you get a lifetime warrenty and support with a car? Microwave? Cooker? Erm nope!
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We're not talking warranty here. It's actually about part availability which car manufacturers are quite good at. Though when they do stop production for parts for older cars, you can turn to the 3rd party manufacturing industry to keep your car maintained.

Same thing here really.
 
LatinGeek

LatinGeek

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There's no law against it, but it does show a lack of care or respect for the users. It's a dick move.
 
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