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Due to the new shape, the weight may be more evenly distributed in the 11 inch making it seem lighter. Just a guess....I've never held either.

To me the 11” Pro was actually uncomfortable to hold and type on in portrait mode compared to my 10.5. It weirdly felt thicker and heavier. Definitely something about the weight distribution has changed. Due to that and a few other software quirks I returned it after 4 days.
 
My 12.9 comes Monday. Hit the apple store for a pencil and got to see one of these beauties for the first time. Flimsy and cheap were two words that did not come to mind.
 
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I don't know how to measure it. But if you press both down with your finger firmly... you will see that the LCD in the 2018 distorts in a way that the 2017 (10.5) does not. Not claiming it as science - but it is my honest impression.

I concur w this. I have a 10.5” and thought I wouldn’t be able to live without the 11” but I played w the 11” in store twice and something about it feels...off. And I did the push down on screen thing too and it distorts in a way the 10.5” doesn’t. Feels flimsier.

Also the screen doesn’t seem as nice to me, not as sharp. I know on paper it is. But the overall package left me not longing for this iPad at all.
 
I...don’t understand. It’s literally heavier than the Air 2. Were you comparing the feel of the Air 2 with the smart cover to the IPP without one? Because I own both an Air 2 and an 11” IPP and I can definitely feel the weight difference. And with the smart folio on, the IPP is quite noticeably heavier. I find I hold it differently—I tend to rest the IPP on things rather than holding it casually in one hand.

This makes no sense.

iPad Air 2 weighs .96 pounds.
iPad Pro 11 inch weighs 1.03 pounds.

The 11 inch weighs more than the Air 2, and the 12.9 weighs more than the 11 inch.

I never compared the new Pro to my Air 2, nor did I ever say my Air 2 had that hefty, substantial feel I like. On the contrary, I said nothing felt as good as my iPad 4.

My Air 2 is actually my least favorite Apple product I've ever owned. It too feels flimsy and cheap.

Which one did you pick up and play with? I actually like the weight and feel of the 12.9”.

Played with both, but mainly the 11" as that's the one I'd be interested in.

Due to the new shape, the weight may be more evenly distributed in the 11 inch making it seem lighter. Just a guess....I've never held either.

Right, the footprint may be slightly larger and it might be slightly less dense or whatever, but probably splitting hairs either way. Could be just the feel of the thinness and the squared sides in my hand. Either way, I just wasn't impressed with the feel. Not saying I won't buy one, my Air 2 is just getting to that point I should probably replace it while it's still got a three figure resale value.

Really it's just getting to the point where Apple product replacements aren't exciting or based on being excited anymore, they are just standard products that are now integrated into my normal life workflow and are therefore subject to just normal product lifecycle replacements after X years, after which it's business as usual once it's set up, just the same as it was before the replacement was purchased.
 
I never compared the new Pro to my Air 2, nor did I ever say my Air 2 had that hefty, substantial feel I like.
Can you understand why it would be confusing that you write "wanted to check out the new Pro as I'm about due to replace my Air 2." and then complain that the new pro (that is heavier than the iPad 2) is too light?

From a logical standpoint it's hard to understand, and why would you want Apple to make a heavy device that people don't want to hold for extended periods of time?

The main complaint about the iPad Pro 12.9 was it's weight and bulk. Apple addressed that.
 
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How does the screen of the 10.5 and 11 compare in quality, contrast, image retention? Are they pretty similar?
 
I want an iPad that I can fold up into an airplane and throw across the room.
 
I used to work for an automotive paint manufacturer as a color matcher and always got a kick out of OEM Customers thinking they had to lay a thick layer of paint on the parts in order for it to be a good paint job. I have been out of paint for almost ten years, but I believe our goal was to have about 0.8 to 1.2 mils of DFT (Dry Film Thickness) and 0.8 to 1.0 for DFH (Dry Film Hide). That of course is excluding colors that don't hide so well (such as red) then the spec was moved up a little. Anyways, my point is more is not always better - at least for the end user. I know as a paint manufacturer we loved customers who put more paint on their parts, but in order to stay ahead of the competition we taught the customer how to put less paint on their parts. Apple is in the same boat, I'm sure they wouldn't mind making a little heavier iPad Pro and make more money. However, due the competition they wouldn't be able to. Can you imagine how much Apple would be charging for a heavier iPad Pro? In my opinion they already charge way too much, but I think it would even be more ridiculous. Apple is able to set the prices high on the new iPad Pros simply because of supply and demand.
 
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I don't know how to measure it. But if you press both down with your finger firmly... you will see that the LCD in the 2018 distorts in a way that the 2017 (10.5) does not. Not claiming it as science - but it is my honest impression.


Ok, good, I thought I was the only one. I feel the same thing!! Driving me nuts really.
 
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My thoughts are, I wouldn’t take this thread seriously in the sense that consumers will feel the way the OP does, mainly because I think the OP is more prone to being overly particular about Apple products than most consumers would be. Consumers that purchase the iPad ultimately feel how light weight it is, and not have the mindset that ‘it feels cheap because it’s lighter’. I don’t think any Apple product ever delivers that type of expectation to anyone that if feels cheap and flimsy if the weight was reduced. But again, a tech forum consensus is not usually the norm of the average consumers mindset.
 
When I hold my 11 inch iPad Pro by itself, it does feel thin and light, but not disturbingly so. With the Smart Keyboard Folio attached, it does add some heft and weight to the entire set up. When I used it outside for the first time, I had to get used to the added weight. But eventually, you get used to it. I am still not used to squishing the buttons of the keyboard the folio is folded all the way back while I holding the iPad though.
 
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