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iTunes + iCloud merge is a disaster

SDAVE

SDAVE

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Anyone else hate the fact that Apple just messes your whole library up? I have a large collection of music, thankfully I have a backup of it, but it merges iCloud crap with my own library and when I'm not online the music just disappears and it just confuses things.

Apple get your ish together. A lot of us are picky listeners.
 
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iCloud Music library is the worst product ever. In my opinion it is even worse than Apple Maps. They destroyed my hole Music Library. Thank god I had a backup. Apple really needs to focus on software again. It just works is a long time ago ...
 
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Macomania2010 said:
iCloud Music library is the worst product ever. In my opinion it is even worse than Apple Maps. They destroyed my hole Music Library. Thank god I had a backup. Apple really needs to focus on software again. It just works is a long time ago ...
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Tim Cook is not a good filter for this stuff.
 
Stories like that have kept me from activating the iclouds music library. The thing is, I could use the space on my macbook. More than 60% of my hard drive is music. And over 95% of that is music i've bought elsewhere but that is now stored in my itunes library. And I frequently buy new music from other sources such as bandcamp. I really like the idea of an itunes native cloud music library but if I lose my music it'd be frustrating.

So I can back up my library and give it a try. But what happens when I try to import new music and something goes wrong? That new music may be trashed before I realize it. Or do I have to manually back up my music every time I import some of it?
 
seamusk said:
Stories like that have kept me from activating the iclouds music library. The thing is, I could use the space on my macbook. More than 60% of my hard drive is music. And over 95% of that is music i've bought elsewhere but that is now stored in my itunes library. And I frequently buy new music from other sources such as bandcamp. I really like the idea of an itunes native cloud music library but if I lose my music it'd be frustrating.

So I can back up my library and give it a try. But what happens when I try to import new music and something goes wrong? That new music may be trashed before I realize it. Or do I have to manually back up my music every time I import some of it?
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I think you HAVE to activate iCloud music to use Apple music.

I would backup your USER/MUSIC folder which keeps your iTunes database and then use Apple Music.
 
I heartily recommend Google Play Music, I uploaded my entire library and the only messy things it did was duplicating either the first or the last song on most of my playlists.
 
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navaira said:
I heartily recommend Google Play Music, I uploaded my entire library and the only messy things it did was duplicating either the first or the last song on most of my playlists.
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Google is no angel. I don't want to upload my library, a lot of it is 320kbps or lossless (flac or Apple Lossless. Obviously for flac I don't use iTunes). I have different bitrate files and I don't like 256kbps AAC.
 
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I believe Google keeps original files though. (I don't have any lossless, maybe it's an exception.)
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Apple is kind of a nice ecosystem, though, although not a huge fan of Apple music at the moment. I have obscure music that the iTunes store does not carry. I have hundreds of my own ripped CDs I just want to have control over those and I want to use Apple Music for stuff I don't own. I don't care about iTunes match or iCloud. I guess people like me are in the minority.
 
SDAVE said:
I think you HAVE to activate iCloud music to use Apple music.

I would backup your USER/MUSIC folder which keeps your iTunes database and then use Apple Music.
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You can use Apple Music (aka the streaming and music recommendation service) without enabling iCloud Music Library but then you can really only stream music. You cannot save songs to 'Your Music' (ie, bookmark songs) nor download songs for offline listening. It's still a nice recommendation service and stream-on-demand service but probably not worth it once the free period ends.
 
I really don't understand why I have to use iCloud in order to save tracks for offline listening. It's counter-intuitive for me. "So you want to listen to music when you have no network access? Excellent! We're putting it in the cloud then."
 
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Definitely a disaster! What ever happened to keeping things simple? Remember the phrase "it just works"?
 
This is part of the reason why I made a backup of my Library and started over. I didn't listen to half that stuff anyway.
 
I just removed and re-added a bunch of songs because iTunes kept messing them up (wrong metadata and artwork). Now, they are back in my library and correctly tagged... but they are labeled as Apple Music instead of iTunes Match. WTF???

I assumed that bug was fixed months ago in 12.2.1???? It's now back in 12.3?
 
It seems since iOS 9 it's messed up even more, at least my collection is. I have it Cloud Library turned off for now but I have albums split into 2, with different album art, certain tracks on each "half", weird track numbers (like 73, 91, etc), double tracks, etc. I am deleting the messed up ones and redownloading entire albums and hope it gets corrected. smh
 
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