iTunes Match - Uploaded songs not getting deleted from iCloud

[Polydactyl]

I've had itunes Match for almost year. Within the first month, I went through all the pains of trying to get "uploaded" songs changed to "matched" for songs that I knew were available from the iTunes store. I had no success, so I gave up.

I thought I'd try again since perhaps apple had improved the matching process:
1. I deleted all the "uploaded" songs from iTunes and iCloud
2. Waited a few hours
3. Verified from my iPhone that these songs were no longer in "the cloud"
4. Re-added the songs that had been previously uploaded so iTunes match could reprocess them

After about 1 minute, iTunes match came back and reported that all 4.37GB of these songs had been uploaded.

Obviously there is no way these songs re-uploaded in that short time, so even though I specified that I wanted them deleted from iCloud, they were not.
Apparently delete does not mean delete with iCloud.

If I had waited longer, would those songs eventually be truly deleted from iCloud?

 

[duncansby]

Unfortunately under ios 6, they've not improved itunes match, they've made it much worse.

1 you can no longer download individual songs
2 you can no longer delete downloaded songs or albums
3 the improvements claimed for the cellular/ wifi downloading are hugely dubious especially if you are on a capped cellular downlaod

 

[ZeRoLiMiT]

itunes match/music on the iPhone/iPod sucks! they made it worse! sucks but apple needs to fix this QUICK!!!

 

[zhenya]

Unfortunately under ios 6, they've not improved itunes match, they've made it much worse.

1 you can no longer download individual songs
2 you can no longer delete downloaded songs or albums
3 the improvements claimed for the cellular/ wifi downloading are hugely dubious especially if you are on a capped cellular downlaod

Wrong on every account. Please stop spreading rumors that you haven't bothered to substantiate.

Polydactyl, I suspect that you would have to wait a substantial amount of time before the files are purged from the cloud side of your Match profile. I'm not aware of exactly how long that time period is, however.

What is the reason for needing to have those songs 'matched'? Functionality is the same whether matched or uploaded. Are you just hoping to get the quality bump?

 

[duncansby]

Wrong on every account. Please stop spreading rumors that you haven't bothered to substantiate.

I apologise that I am not worthy of an Apple product, as I still stand by all I said

 

[MRU]

I apologise that I am not worthy of an Apple product, as I still stand by all I said

You're still wrong though, I can do both 1 & 2 on all my iOS 6 devices and 3 isn't an issue for me.

 

[MonkeySee....]

Unfortunately under ios 6, they've not improved itunes match, they've made it much worse.

1 you can no longer download individual songs
2 you can no longer delete downloaded songs or albums
3 the improvements claimed for the cellular/ wifi downloading are hugely dubious especially if you are on a capped cellular downlaod

points 1+2 are incorrect.

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I've had itunes Match for almost year. Within the first month, I went through all the pains of trying to get "uploaded" songs changed to "matched" for songs that I knew were available from the iTunes store. I had no success, so I gave up.

I thought I'd try again since perhaps apple had improved the matching process:
1. I deleted all the "uploaded" songs from iTunes and iCloud
2. Waited a few hours
3. Verified from my iPhone that these songs were no longer in "the cloud"
4. Re-added the songs that had been previously uploaded so iTunes match could reprocess them

After about 1 minute, iTunes match came back and reported that all 4.37GB of these songs had been uploaded.

Obviously there is no way these songs re-uploaded in that short time, so even though I specified that I wanted them deleted from iCloud, they were not.
Apparently delete does not mean delete with iCloud.

If I had waited longer, would those songs eventually be truly deleted from iCloud?

I don't think you're uploading anything. its just matching songs with iTunes. That's why its done so quickly.

 

[bucksaddle]

I don't think you're uploading anything. its just matching songs with iTunes. That's why its done so quickly.

But it's not matching though, what he is saying is that the iTunes match status still says uploaded, not matched, even though no upload has taken place. I have noticed this myself where I have specifically asked iTunes to delete an album from the cloud that has been uploaded (not matched), left it for a week and then re-added the album. When match runs it instantly says that the songs have been uploaded - there is no progress status showing the uploading of the songs like the first time it did when it actually uploaded them.
I must admit I'm not that bothered if they are uploaded or matched, i'm just curious as to when delete means delete.

 

[duncansby]

You're still wrong though, I can do both 1 & 2 on all my iOS 6 devices and 3 isn't an issue for me.

Please explain how do it on my iphone

I cannot delete songs or albums without switching itunes match off, deleting downloaded items, and then switching match back on. It works, but it's hardly user friendly

I can only download whole albums or playlists - I can stream a single song which downloads it, but I do not have the download icon beside single songs

Thanks