I was originally going to get MS Office S/T edition but I was then convinced by some to get iWork. Has anyone heard rumors or have predictions on what iWork' 06 will entail?
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iWork '06
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Really sketchy info on it at the moment. It might have some kind of spreadsheet app (like Excel) added on top of Pages and Keynote and be released in January?
You might want to check this Page 2 one https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/11/20051129073434.shtml
You might want to check this Page 2 one https://www.macrumors.com/pages/2005/11/20051129073434.shtml
No, and not even any solid rumors that there will be an iWork '06. Several discussions, mainly wish-lists, have already been started here. You might want to look them up.
I think it's obvious to think that there will be an iWork '06... I mean, Apple released iLife '04 and then the '05 version, so my guess is that we will see and iWork '06 as well as an iLife '06. And IMO it's likely that both will come with some enhancements. 'Numbers', a spreadsheet app has been rumored since before iWork '05 was out.
rye9 said:
When you say "convinced" - have you used the program? I personally don't like it. If you're close to an apple store go check it out - or there are demo disks out there - I got one with Tiger. MS Office is still the standard for now and I don't think that iWork is any better. If you're buying Student/Teacher edition - it's pretty cheap. From some posts here, if you're at a campus the bookstore will sell for even less than the standard Student/Teacher price.
It'll take a bunch of improvements before I switch (the last bit of MS on my computer)
fartheststar said:When you say "convinced" - have you used the program? I personally don't like it. If you're close to an apple store go check it out - or there are demo disks out there - I got one with Tiger. MS Office is still the standard for now and I don't think that iWork is any better. If you're buying Student/Teacher edition - it's pretty cheap. From some posts here, if you're at a campus the bookstore will sell for even less than the standard Student/Teacher price.
It'll take a bunch of improvements before I switch (the last bit of MS on my computer)
I mean that people I have talked to like it more than Office. Also, I dont want to pay a lot of money for entourage which i wont use and 3 installs of each. I only want one install, so IMO, MS Office would be cheaper if they sold a one time use suite instead of the 3 installations whereas iWork only has 1 installation and less apps, so less money.
There pretty much the same but Msoft Office will give you much more in excel and stuff. I also recommend word over pages. (I have iWork and MS Office ST edition). I reccomend Office, but I dont know when there next update is
rye9 said:
You get what you pay for. I think $115 is a fair price to pay for a complete Office suite (word processor, spreadsheet and presentation). Entourage is more of an extra. Why complain about the ability to install the program three times? That's a bonus. I'm thrilled that Microsoft decided to ship three separate keys with each academic version of Office. It's saved my household money.
When Microsoft released Office v. X in 2001, the academic version cost $249 and only shipped with one product key and license.
Bottom line, Office is a more mature software package. It's the de facto standard in business. If you want to be 100 percent compatible, stick with Office. iWork (especially Pages) has a long way to go, and should be considered more of a Microsoft Works for the Macintosh.
joshuawaire said:
All of your points are true. But for my situation iWork I believe would be best. I would be the only person in my house w/ a Mac, so I only need one install. Also, I'm only in high school so i dont need 100% compatibility or a great suite. I really only need a word processor. Also, iWork is cheaper and there will probably the new iwork in MWSF in a few weeks so pages wouldnt have such a long way to go with the new version.
Well I agree with you that Entourage is not good (I don't use it), I prefer Word over pages and the fact that Excel exists, and Powerpoint is standard for PC's is why I use office.
Well, it sounds like you've made up your mind.... but I'd try to get your hand on a trial version of iWork 05 before you decide. Office for mac will behave exactly how you expected it to on a PC, only a bit better.
Well, it sounds like you've made up your mind.... but I'd try to get your hand on a trial version of iWork 05 before you decide. Office for mac will behave exactly how you expected it to on a PC, only a bit better.
Keynote is beatuiful but Pages falls depressingly far. I mean for the main program of a Work package, it seems that more work has used for Keynote. Hopefully they got Pages right this time around, will add PPT compatibility into Keynote (is it there) and come out with a spreadsheet program taht beats Excel, because Excel is a great program jsut done terribly for mac.
would you recommend iwork for a word processor app over MS word for a college student? my brother wants it but i think he's better off with MS word
I don't recommend one over the other. I recommend trying both and deciding for yourself, which, since it's a no-cost exercise, should not be much of an issue and well worth doing.
Please, don't believe the people who will tell you that Pages is somehow unacceptable. It's perfectly usable as-is, and will only get better. Those of us who prefer it to Word actually have good reasons for doing so.
Please, don't believe the people who will tell you that Pages is somehow unacceptable. It's perfectly usable as-is, and will only get better. Those of us who prefer it to Word actually have good reasons for doing so.
IJ Reilly said:
Just speaking for myself, I am also entitled to my opinion that Pages is unacceptable for me.
But I agree - try both out - you'll figure out quickly what is acceptable for you.
Id say word way over pages. I mean excluding tables and templates from pages you could use textedit or even worse... Appleworks
if you want to make documents and presentations that are stylish and pleasing to look at then you'll want iWork. if you need to create text only documents or can live with the clipart that comes with Office then go for that. personally i won't use Office because it is just too sketchy on Tiger. very unstable, overwrites system fonts, memory leaks all over the place. not that iWork is a well-oiled machine either. it just plays nicer, and looks nicer. i would go with an iWork/FileMaker Pro combo over Office any day.
I prefer the clean and simple design of Pages, although some things that take a few clicks on MS Word take a bit longer on Pages. I still prefer Pages though
puckhead193 said:
Personally, I like pages much better than MS Word, and not just because of their developers. Features are much easier to find in pages, and doesn't take forever just to load the font files. Pages does everything useful that Word does, and more. It's image masking, wrapping, foreground/background handling are superb, and exports to word format. Pages is far from a lowly piece of software: it's a powerful workhorse, that is aesthetically oriented, and easy to use. It's great for school work, and professional presentations. It's capable of handling many media types, in an elegant fashion. Pages is a altogether obviously better buy than the "acclaimed" word.
If you want to compare word to something, compare it to appleworks, which by the way, is free.
People, please share your templates! It just makes things easier for others, spread the joy of iwork.
I really really like Pages. I have just finished using it for my first semi longish paper at University (5,000 words). It was a joy to use, very quick, light, but stylish at the same time. It uses all the great built in features of OSX too. People have to be real though - its a 1.0. You cant expect the same kind of functionality that Words has as a version 11 release. But I do believe it is much easier to use than Word for creating good documents. Apple are definitely putting the right bases in, and I expect 2.0 next month to be a significant improvement even further.
Keynote is far better than Powerpoint too imo. It really isnt difficult to create a very nice and professional looking presentation. And again, its an intangible but as with Pages, it just *feels* so nice to work with.
A spreadsheet app would be nice in January, but id like to see them not take the Excel route - something more akin to an accessible Improv or Quantrix would be amazing..
Keynote is far better than Powerpoint too imo. It really isnt difficult to create a very nice and professional looking presentation. And again, its an intangible but as with Pages, it just *feels* so nice to work with.
A spreadsheet app would be nice in January, but id like to see them not take the Excel route - something more akin to an accessible Improv or Quantrix would be amazing..
Um, if all you need is a simple word processor, use TextEdit. It come standard with Tiger, reads most Word .docs, spell checking, thesaurus. If you need something better, wait to see if the next iWork is good. If not, go with Office. Pages is great as a page layout program, for making things like flyers. But TextEdit works fine for creating simple .rtf files. As long as you don't need anything complex like tables, you should be fine.
TextEdit is useful for short-form writing and note taking, but it lacks word processing basics like page numbers, headers, footers. You'd never get away with using it for an academic paper.