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Just bought a new Mac Pro and........

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JoeStrange

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It came with an Esata port on the front!

I spent 3,750 at the apple store, Not realizing the video card takes up two slots...I have to use all the PCI slots for my work and there was no room for Esata.

Why do I have to do **** like this to my high end Mac?
 

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JoeStrange said:
Why do I have to do **** like this to my almost 4000 dollar computer? Give us the option of a single space video card at least!
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Uhm... maybe because you haven't done your homework properly?

There ARE single slot graphics cards for the Pro (GT120 & Quadro4000), and even if those aren't an option for you (not enough power, too expensive or whatever reason), the option of buying a third party cooler for the 5770/5870 would have probably allowed the installation of the eSATA bracket in the second slot.
 
Yea. No time for homework, I was in a rush and needed the computer.

But just because I didnt do my homework does that mean you dont like my handywork to a brand new Mac Pro?
 
alphaod said:
You'd have to blame Intel for only giving us 6 SATA ports in their chipset.
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This would make far too much sense. Let's just blame Apple for everything.

I'M ANGRY MY MAC PRO DOESN'T HAVE 8 16X PCI EXPRESS SLOTS AND I BLAME APPLE.
 
JoeStrange said:
But just because I didnt do my homework does that mean you dont like my handywork to a brand new Mac Pro?
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Nope, not at all. However, I would have probably located it somewhere in the back. ;)


And I too blame Apple (not Intel) for not providing us eSATA. What's the problem with adding another SATA controller?
 
Transporteur said:
And I too blame Apple (not Intel) for not providing us eSATA. What's the problem with adding another SATA controller?
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Intel doesn't provide enough lanes to add another controller.

Apple, rightly so, leaves it up to the user to decide if they want to sacrifice the PCI lanes to do so.
 
I'm pretty sure Apple gives the specifications to Intel as to what it wants out of the board, and not "Ok we'll take whatever Intel gives us". Apple specifically asked for that configuration, and most likely asked them to omit eSATA. Funny, nearly every modern motherboard out there, consumer or otherwise, OEM or retail, has an eSATA port (or two) on it these days.
 
Wild-Bill said:
I'm pretty sure Apple gives the specifications to Intel as to what it wants out of the board, and not "Ok we'll take whatever Intel gives us". Apple specifically asked for that configuration, and most likely asked them to omit eSATA. Funny, nearly every modern motherboard out there, consumer or otherwise, OEM or retail, has an eSATA port (or two) on it these days.
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It's not the board, it's the processor. The processor only supports X number of lanes.

Remember, Apple has "extras" like Firewire 800 that eat up lanes.
 
WardC said:
What is wrong with FireWire 800? is it not fast enough? Is 8TB of Internal Storage not enough for you people?
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ward if he buys this unit


http://www.sansdigital.com/towerstor/ts2ct.html


he will have a bootable option of 6tb in raid0 or a bootable option of 3tb in raid1. his speeds will be 220mb/s in raid0 and 140mb/s in raid1

A fw800 is 70 MB/s if you are lucky. so 3x the speed not safe and 2x the speed safe is nice and it boots. I just don't know why he just did not buy this and run it then out in the empty optical bay/


http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer Technology/MPQXES2/
 
WardC said:
What is wrong with FireWire 800? is it not fast enough? Is 8TB of Internal Storage not enough for you people?
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No to both for a lot of people, the same subset that tends to make heavy use of Mac Pros. A fluid dynamics researcher friend of mine has 45TB hanging off his MP, with 6 SSDs internally right now for example!

Personally nothing I do locally is storage intensive enough to equal that, but even so I have 6TB raw space in my MP, another 8TB in a NAS on the other side of my desk, and ~5TB or so of externals holding backups. Next update will see my MP have 2 SSDs and 4x3TB drives most likely - that's 12TB internal spinning disk and probably 0.5TB in SSD in case you're counting - higher than your "can't believe you need that much" numbers
 
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yeah, apple should really consider that most $400 Dell's come with an esata port on them when they design their computers. It's a crying shame what Apple doesn't give us in the name of "knowing what's best".
 
Wild-Bill said:
I'm pretty sure Apple gives the specifications to Intel as to what it wants out of the board, and not "Ok we'll take whatever Intel gives us". Apple specifically asked for that configuration, and most likely asked them to omit eSATA. Funny, nearly every modern motherboard out there, consumer or otherwise, OEM or retail, has an eSATA port (or two) on it these days.
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Unlikely as other Intel 5520 have the same limitations (6 SATA ports, limited amount of PCIe lanes).
 
Hahaha :D ^^^^ Whats crazy is I pulled the entire B sata connector right off the motherboard while trying to unplug it, leaving only soldered pins sticking up out of the board.

Im like hmmm. I dont think apple care will cover that, Hahaha! I did eventually get the pins back into the connector and everything turned out fine. It was a rather huge pain in the ass just to unplug a sata connector though, WTF? Maybe I should have done more homework on how to unplug a sata connector from a motherboard?

And just think, I could have built 4 water cooled i7 hacks with that money! I woulda had mucho Sata/Esata ports then!


philipma1957,
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer...ology/MPQXES2/ << thats what got took apart and screwed to the front.

Im running these: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/RAID/Desktop/ and these: http://www.micronet.com/products/platinum-raid-sata.htm
 
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