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venomx999

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I'd like to see HDR mode on at all times with the new iOS in future, as it auto turns off after 10 minutes

thanks
 
What is HDR mode??? HDR usually stands for High Dynamic Range video. What is the HDR mode you are referencing?
 
What is HDR mode??? HDR usually stands for High Dynamic Range video. What is the HDR mode you are referencing?

On the iPhone camera there is HDR mode on/off/auto

If i set it to " On " it turns itself back to "Auto" after a few minutes
 
i would like to have this too, but in fact apple implemented this only on iphone 8 series and iphone x - typical dick move by apple.
 
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iOS camera HDR is nothing to be too excited about. If you are serious about photography, spend a few bucks and get a real HDR app like Vivid HDR or the like (read, though, not all HDR apps out there actually take multiple shots). You will get significantly better results.

But for a casual use, yes you'll need to request a feature through Apple.
 
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iOS camera HDR is nothing to be too excited about. If you are serious about photography, spend a few bucks and get a real HDR app like Vivid HDR or the like (read, though, not all HDR apps out there actually take multiple shots). You will get significantly better results.

i dont agree. apple's HDR mode has a pretty great quality and natural feel while many other HDR apps are way beyond and look artificial etc. - no need to spend money when the best result comes from apples own camera app. and saying "serious about photography" and talking about iphone bites itself a bit (though i understand what you mean).
 
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i dont agree. apple's HDR mode has a pretty great quality and natural feel while many other HDR apps are way beyond and look artificial etc. - no need to spend money when the best result comes from apples own camera app. and saying "serious about photography" and talking about iphone bites itself a bit (though i understand what you mean).

HDR is like that; most of apps out there overdo it, and people like that (almost burnt looking pictures) so saying that many are too much is definitely true. But saying that Apple gives you the best result is definitely not true either. :) I tried many, many apps and I find Vivid HDR to produce very natural results. Actually, I think Lightroom does better HDR, especially inside, but it is too slow and somewhat cumbersome for everyday use (IMO). I'm sure there are others.

My point really is - I think Apple camera does a good job, and I will use Apple camera app for stuff. But if someone wants to explore HDR, there are definitely better options out there.

Yeah I know... "serious about photography" - it is a bit funny to talk about this when talking about phones but iPhone does very well. Best camera is the one you have with you. Might as well get most out of it. :)
 
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HDR is like that; most of apps out there overdo it, and people like that (almost burnt looking pictures) so saying that many are too much is definitely true. But saying that Apple gives you the best result is definitely not true either. :) I tried many, many apps and I find Vivid HDR to produce very natural results. Actually, I think Lightroom does better HDR, especially inside, but it is too slow and somewhat cumbersome for everyday use (IMO). I'm sure there are others.

My point really is - I think Apple camera does a good job, and I will use Apple camera app for stuff. But if someone wants to explore HDR, there are definitely better options out there.

Yeah I know... "serious about photography" - it is a bit funny to talk about this when talking about phones but iPhone does very well. Best camera is the one you have with you. Might as well get most out of it. :)

Lifesaver ! Thank you
I have just d/l Vivid HDR and its so much better than the iphone camera
[doublepost=1515184855][/doublepost]The only problem is it takes a while to take the photo, still a good app though
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iOS camera HDR is nothing to be too excited about. If you are serious about photography, spend a few bucks and get a real HDR app like Vivid HDR or the like (read, though, not all HDR apps out there actually take multiple shots). You will get significantly better results.

But for a casual use, yes you'll need to request a feature through Apple.

Should i set it to 3,5 or auto photo ?
 
Should i set it to 3,5 or auto photo ?

I actually leave it at 3. Most of the time it does 3 shots which for the most part works. If you go for 5 photos, it is really imperative that you have your phone stabilized. Even though Vivid HDR does great with eliminating motion "ghosting" (which happens due to multiple photos which might not match just perfectly if you are hand holding your phone) - the problems only multiplies if you are taking 5 shots. Also imagine a scenario when you are taking a shot of a tree with leaves that are moving in the breeze. Taking 5 shots will capture more motion than 3. I do not understand Vivid HDR's algorithm but it will do a pretty incredible job of extracting highlights from photos it takes and creating a HDR shot without ghosting but it cannot handle everything.

And yes - all of this will take a little more time than taking a simple shot. Hence, Apple camera still has it's use. If I have the time to set up the shot nicer, I'll use Vivid HDR. If I am pressed for time and want a quick snap, Apple camera it is.

Also, another tip:

Make a decision if you want to do "Lazy HDR" - this will mean that all of the original shots are preserved so you can re-process them using different templates later; I used to have this on but have since turned it off as I would never go back really. Storage will see an impact, for every shot the app will save 4 photos usually (3 at different F stops and one combined HDR).
 
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I actually leave it at 3. Most of the time it does 3 shots which for the most part works. If you go for 5 photos, it is really imperative that you have your phone stabilized. Even though Vivid HDR does great with eliminating motion "ghosting" (which happens due to multiple photos which might not match just perfectly if you are hand holding your phone) - the problems only multiplies if you are taking 5 shots. Also imagine a scenario when you are taking a shot of a tree with leaves that are moving in the breeze. Taking 5 shots will capture more motion than 3. I do not understand Vivid HDR's algorithm but it will do a pretty incredible job of extracting highlights from photos it takes and creating a HDR shot without ghosting but it cannot handle everything.

And yes - all of this will take a little more time than taking a simple shot. Hence, Apple camera still has it's use. If I have the time to set up the shot nicer, I'll use Vivid HDR. If I am pressed for time and want a quick snap, Apple camera it is.

Also, another tip:

Make a decision if you want to do "Lazy HDR" - this will mean that all of the original shots are preserved so you can re-process them using different templates later; I used to have this on but have since turned it off as I would never go back really. Storage will see an impact, for every shot the app will save 4 photos usually (3 at different F stops and one combined HDR).

Awesome, thanks.

If i set it to 5 i seem to get blurry photos sometimes, auto seems the best.

What is the difference between Auto, 3 & 5 ?
 
Awesome, thanks.

If i set it to 5 i seem to get blurry photos sometimes, auto seems the best.

What is the difference between Auto, 3 & 5 ?

Automatic chooses how many exposures are needed to get the most range of detail: 3 is sufficient for HDR (low exposure, regular exposure and high exposure combined together). 5 adds two more under and over exposed shots for even greater fidelity.
 
Apple knows HDR can be more harmful to the photos than beneficial. They even default "keeping original" on at the expense of storage in case the auto feature brings it on at the wrong time.

Obviously it should be avoided for shots with motion. Where high contrast is wanted/needed. Where vivid colors take up most of the image. Etc

Auto mode seems to turn on as a crutch for someone about to take a really bad photo that is over/underexposed in a large area.

And everything else they hope the person taking the pic knows the appropriate time to use HDR.

I keep it off and when I turn it on I definitely have keep originals turned on. And it can be very beneficial but generally something that could benefit from HDR isn't going anywhere fast so you have a second to prep for it. Like a landscape over a valley with bright skies. Or anything out in the bright sun that has detail in the shadows you want to capture while maintaining other detail.

EDIT: Sorry OP I just reread that I'm not trying to sound like a jerk or elitist. Its just like me asking how I can always keep the flash or something, I dunno.
 
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