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Master123of

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Hello all together,

is there a possibility to keep the doors open for iOS 9 when upgrading to the iOS 10 (real Version)? I mean that I want to be able to rollback to iOS 9 even when I have had iOS 10 installed for a few months.

The reason behind this is that I plan to keep my oldie-devices (iPhone 5s and iPad Air) for at least another year and I am afraid that iOS 10 could eventually brick them.

Thanks in advance

Master123of
 

C DM

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Only while Apple is still signing the latest version of iOS 9. That could be the case for the first few weeks after iOS 10 is released, but that's likely as far as that would go (if even that).
 

Paddle1

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No. You can only downgrade while Apple is signing them which should only be for a short period after iOS 10's release. While they are signing you can upgrade or downgrade as you please.

IMO iOS 10 seems to run quite well and even better than iOS 9 in some cases so you might be just fine with it.
 
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lagwagon

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Hello all together,

is there a possibility to keep the doors open for iOS 9 when upgrading to the iOS 10 (real Version)? I mean that I want to be able to rollback to iOS 9 even when I have had iOS 10 installed for a few months.

The reason behind this is that I plan to keep my oldie-devices (iPhone 5s and iPad Air) for at least another year and I am afraid that iOS 10 could eventually brick them.

Thanks in advance

Master123of

Why would iOS 10 eventually brick them? I don't understand your fear. iOS 10 in pretty much every single way runs better than iOS 9.
 

Bladery

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Why would iOS 10 eventually brick them? I don't understand your fear. iOS 10 in pretty much every single way runs better than iOS 9.

Apparently because Apple did that in the past!
Why do you always ask questions which answers are apparent (and you probably know too)?
 
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lagwagon

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He can't handle anyone criticising Apple.

In what world is someone worried about iOS "eventually" bricking his device considered as criticism?

Oh I forgot. Sense isn't supposed to be made around these forums and I should just go about blindly hating everything Apple does, all while spending lots of money on the devices I complain about.
 

C DM

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Apparently because Apple did that in the past!
Why do you always ask questions which answers are apparent (and you probably know too)?
Apple eventually bricked devices in the past? Are we talking about some updates that would have some issues (which would of course get addressed)? (If so, how does going back all the way to the previous major iOS version be the workaround compared to simply going to the previously working update of the current iOS version?)
 
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Tubamajuba

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In what world is someone worried about iOS "eventually" bricking his device considered as criticism?

Oh I forgot. Sense isn't supposed to be made around these forums and I should just go about blindly hating everything Apple does, all while spending lots of money on the devices I complain about.
See, you don't get it. Somebody on the internet said something bad about Apple, so it must be true. Now, you have people that try to explain things and make sense out of them- those people are shills. Why else would they not want to crusade against Apple!

Any time an iOS update causes one dropped frame somewhere, it bricked that device. Did you know that almost all iOS devices are bricked?

...

Or something like that. I can't keep up with these people. Cheers!
 

Master123of

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Woah woah woah calm down. With "bricked" I mean unusable slow wich is true for all iPhones from 4s and down with the maximum iOS version (but this is only my opinion, there are many people using those devices).

I read on an forum that there is a way to sava a spcific ID or something from the devices wich makes it possible to go back whenever you want.
 

C DM

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Woah woah woah calm down. With "bricked" I mean unusable slow wich is true for all iPhones from 4s and down with the maximum iOS version (but this is only my opinion, there are many people using those devices).

I read on an forum that there is a way to sava a spcific ID or something from the devices wich makes it possible to go back whenever you want.
No such thing exists. And certainly bricked and slow are fairly different things.
 

Master123of

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When its so slow that I cant use it any more then there is no big difference for me but yes you are right. I meant "too slow" :) Thank you for your answers
 

Bladery

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Are you all outta your mind?
Of course new iOS versions slow down older devices!
There was even a class action a few years ago because of that and have a look at all the YouTube comparison videos!
 

Paddle1

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Woah woah woah calm down. With "bricked" I mean unusable slow wich is true for all iPhones from 4s and down with the maximum iOS version (but this is only my opinion, there are many people using those devices).

I read on an forum that there is a way to sava a spcific ID or something from the devices wich makes it possible to go back whenever you want.

No such thing exists. And certainly bricked and slow are fairly different things.
I think you're referring to saving SHSH blobs. You can't do this anymore since iPhone 4. And even if you could you would still need a computer.

The iPhone 4s is much weaker than the iPhone 5 or later and is from a different era in smartphones. They shouldn't really be compared.
 

clukas

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Why would iOS 10 eventually brick them? I don't understand your fear. iOS 10 in pretty much every single way runs better than iOS 9.

He is referring to the slowdown in performance old devices often experience with new iOS updates. Its a genuine concern, as an older iPhone's running the latest iOS may be barely usable. Apple should do more to optimise performance, but latest beta's have had good performance so times may be changing.
 

stooovie

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This is probably the first time a new major iOS version running better than the last. They removed support for devices that would struggle. It runs great on iPhone 5 and iPad Air.
 

C DM

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He is referring to the slowdown in performance old devices often experience with new iOS updates. Its a genuine concern, as an older iPhone's running the latest iOS may be barely usable. Apple should do more to optimise performance, but latest beta's have had good performance so times may be changing.
Except things like that don't happen down the line. If someone feels a new iOS version is affective them negatively (which has nothing to do with "bricking", even in its hyperbolic use) then that would come up when they upgrade initially and not down the line when they've been on that version for some months already.
 
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