Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

[utilizer]

I was just trying to wireless connect to my roommate's Windows computer, as he has reconfigured his machine. During the connection process, I only had some downloads going at the same time and all of the sudden, a box came up in the center of the screen, and the entire area around it disabled and greyed-out, with a statement that said something to the effect of "Your machine needs to be restarted. Just press and hold down the power button for a few seconds or enter in the restart keycode." This message was written in about three or four different languages from what I remember. I figure this is the new format that Apple implemented in 10.2.4 for kernel panic, instead of all of the command-line codes written all over the left-hand side of the screen.
I'll tell you this though: The restart time was VASTLY faster compared to what it was before...I'm running off a Pismo BTW; I'll say a reduction by at least 150%!

 

[janey]

wow.
when my iBook restarts it takes all the time it wants...up to 10 minutes.

 

[utilizer]

I really did underestimate the time that it takes for the machine to reboot. My machine, like yours, did take 10 mins. to restart! This was just like 3-4 mins. tops; no hassle -- I was up and running Safari in no time.

 

[crazzyeddie]

Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by utilizer
"Your machine needs to be restarted. Just press and hold down the power button for a few seconds or enter in the restart keycode." This message was written in about three or four different languages from what I remember. I figure this is the new format that Apple implemented in 10.2.4 for kernel panic, instead of all of the command-line codes written all over the left-hand side of the screen.

I havent seen those Unix lines since... 10.1.0? Im pretty sure 10.1.5 had the new dialog, and i know for sure than 10.2.0 had the dialog.

 

[janey]

Originally posted by utilizer
I really did underestimate the time that it takes for the machine to reboot. My machine, like yours, did take 10 mins. to restart! This was just like 3-4 mins. tops; no hassle -- I was up and running Safari in no time.

well i just restarted one of them after installing the developer tools and it took approximately 17.4 minutes to restart-with nothing in the login items thing. weird...

 

[utilizer]

Re: Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by crazzyeddie
I havent seen those Unix lines since... 10.1.0? Im pretty sure 10.1.5 had the new dialog, and i know for sure than 10.2.0 had the dialog.

Well then, that's a true testament to how many bullets this system really dodges! I probably haven't had a kernel panic since the time I had bad RAM and a bad power adapter that fried my machine ($1200 worth of repairs, thank you Apple ) way back in June so that's plasauible.

 

[goglamosh]

that kernel panic notification is not unique to 10.2.4. i had one in 10.2.2 exactly as you described. it was due to faulty RAM.

 

[RBMaraman]

Originally posted by goglamosh
that kernel panic notification is not unique to 10.2.4. i had one in 10.2.2 exactly as you described. it was due to faulty RAM.

I had that kernal panic notification with 10.2.0. When I started up my brother's new 17" iMac on Christmas morning, as soon as the screen saver started I got a kernal panic that brought up that notification. Luckily the 10.2.3 update fixed the screen saver problem.

 

[voicegy]

I've had words to that effect (in all the different languages, etc.) pop up several times on my TiPowerBook running OS 10.2.3 while going through a Keynote run.

Since I'm running the first TiPowerBook, there's probably not enough v-ram to keep such a graphics-dependent little jewel like Keynote totally happy. I jammed the display down from millions to thousands, and upped the OS to 10.2.4.

No problems since.

 

[benixau]

then we know this: it has been with us since at least 10.2.0 maybe as early as 10.1.5.

no more thread

 

[Les Kern]

I have a TiBook 400 that runs flawlessly... never have even SEEN a kernal panic (On ANY of my Macs, by the way). Yesterday I updated to 10.2.4. It took 5 minutes to boot, and after 5 minutes of Safari and MacStumbler running, i got the message as described above. I just updated my 14" iBook this evening at home, and it's... just fine. Boots fast, seems faster, etc. Ram in the Ti came with it, no haxies except ClearDock. Ibook hascleardock and Virtual Desktop.

 

[sparkleytone]

the 'nice' kernal panic came with jaguar. before it was just text.

 

[zimv20]

Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by utilizer
The restart time was VASTLY faster compared to what it was before...I'm running off a Pismo BTW; I'll say a reduction by at least 150%!

100% reduction means it goes to zero. 150% reduction means it finished rebooting before you rebooted it.

neat.

 

[sparkleytone]

heh its just a small mistake really. if you were thinking in terms of how much improvement in time it would be 100-150% as he said. But given the syntax, 50% and 75% are the proper numbers.

 

[utilizer]

Re: Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by zimv20
100% reduction means it goes to zero. 150% reduction means it finished rebooting before you rebooted it.

neat.

I'm only speaking in illustrative terms.

 

[patman_Z]

Originally posted by RBMaraman
I had that kernal panic notification with 10.2.0. When I started up my brother's new 17" iMac on Christmas morning, as soon as the screen saver started I got a kernal panic that brought up that notification. Luckily the 10.2.3 update fixed the screen saver problem.

The kernel dump that I got because of faulty ram was a little different, it gave a semi-descent description of what happened and why, and then 2 options that didn't do anything like
(r) reboot
(c) continue

This error came up when the screen saver was on probably because it uses a bunch of ram.

Patman_Z

 

[patrick0brien]

Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by utilizer
I was just trying to wireless connect to my roommate's Windows computer, as he has reconfigured his machine. During the connection process, I only had some downloads going at the same time and all of the sudden, a box came up in the center of the screen, and the entire area around it disabled and greyed-out

-utilizer

Yeah, this was introduced with 10.2 as a part of the new kernel.

You should have seen them before! Eeeeel! Nasty looking - almost looked like a DOS screen.

BTW- this panic seems to be repeatable, this happens to me when I'm connected to an SMB share and that machine is reconfigured or crashes (yeah, Windows never does that), and a panic can occur. I just think there is no error trapping in that snippet of code. It's a pain, but at least it's not indicative of a real problem.

 

[patman_Z]

Re: Re: Kernel panic notifications changed in 10.2.4

Originally posted by patrick0brien
-utilizer

Yeah, this was introduced with 10.2 as a part of the new kernel.

You should have seen them before! Eeeeel! Nasty looking - almost looked like a DOS screen.

BTW- this panic seems to be repeatable, this happens to me when I'm connected to an SMB share and that machine is reconfigured or crashes (yeah, Windows never does that), and a panic can occur. I just think there is no error trapping in that snippet of code. It's a pain, but at least it's not indicative of a real problem.

I wonder if you could prevent this by just using the smbclient without the nifty keen finder options. I have had that happen several times when I would switch wireless networks and forget that I had a connected smb drive. And then it would grey out and politely tell me that a software error had occured and my machine was hosed. I have also had a lot of problems with the UFS filesystem, I think I am better off without it.


Patman_Z