iPad Pro Keychain on Ipad pro 11 & iCloud

[chubbles]

I use a Mac mini and use an extra keychain with a long password for anything involving $'s. My wife and I don't do any thing involving $'s on our phones. Have decided that the iPad pro with facial recognition is secure enough to be her computer. I don't understand how the mini & the iPad pro will mesh If I add Keychain to our iCloud, they start so differently. The mini is set up with an administrator and a user, I do all my work as the user, so when I login as the user it unlocks the "login" and "local items" keychains. How would this happen on the iPad pro.
Any comments would appreciated.

Thanks,
chubbles

 

[akash.nu]

If the keychain is synced with iCloud then the iPad should have access to the keychain though.

 

[MyopicPaideia]

Keychain will sync to whatever AppleID it is associated with. Once it is in iCloud, the setup you have on your Mac mini is totally irrelevant. Sounds like you each have user accounts on the Mac mini, that have separate keychains each associated with your own AppleID’s? Then it shouldn‘t be a problem at all. iPad will sync seamlessly.

 

[AutomaticApple]

If the keychain is synced with iCloud then the iPad should have access to the keychain though.

Wait, it syncs VIA iCloud?

 

[akash.nu]

Wait, it syncs VIA iCloud?

Yes iCloud Keychain has been out since sometime now.

 

[chubbles]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies. I'm trying to understand iCloud. MyopicPaideia I have seen posts where couples have separate iCloud accounts, but don't understand how the let's them share calendars, notes, reminders, etc. We presently have only one iCloud account.
We're in our 70's, so I think slowly and the wife does not get involved in the hows, just wants it to work.
I'm thinking about the 2 accounts idea. I would like to get to where we share everything on our computer, iPad, and non$'s on the phones.

Thanks for the help,
chubbles

 

[MyopicPaideia]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies. I'm trying to understand iCloud. MyopicPaideia I have seen posts where couples have separate iCloud accounts, but don't understand how the let's them share calendars, notes, reminders, etc. We presently have only one iCloud account.
We're in our 70's, so I think slowly and the wife does not get involved in the hows, just wants it to work.
I'm thinking about the 2 accounts idea. I would like to get to where we share everything on our computer, iPad, and non$'s on the phones.

Thanks for the help,
chubbles

It is actually easier to have two AppleID accounts. My family has this setup, and we use Family Sharing for things like iCloud Storage, Apple Music, and app purchases. We also have shared “family” calendars, reminders, and notes where we put all of our activities, save the dates, shopping lists, etc.

However, all individual stuff, like browser history, passwords and other account credentials, unshared calendars, reminders, notes, etc. stays associated only with the individual AppleID/iCloud account, and thus is very easy to manage on iOS devices.

Probably the only thing you would have to change to make it work as seamlessly on a Mac would be to have different user accounts on the Mac mini for you and your wife. Then you can have the separate browser histories and account login credentials, etc, but still share everything else via Family Sharing and shared calendars, notes and reminders.

Where this all breaks down is when you try to share one user acount on a Mac and/or share one iPad with each other. Here it is obvious that Apple really wants it tablets and phones to be personal devices not to be shared with partners or family.

 

[ApfelKuchen]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies. I'm trying to understand iCloud. MyopicPaideia I have seen posts where couples have separate iCloud accounts, but don't understand how the let's them share calendars, notes, reminders, etc. We presently have only one iCloud account.
We're in our 70's, so I think slowly and the wife does not get involved in the hows, just wants it to work.
I'm thinking about the 2 accounts idea. I would like to get to where we share everything on our computer, iPad, and non$'s on the phones.

Thanks for the help,
chubbles

The point of having separate iCloud accounts is to keep your data separate. If you and your wife are happy with having totally merged info, then you can keep things as they are. If you find that having totally-shared data is causing problems, then consider separate accounts.

There are ways to have separate iCloud accounts and still have shared calendars, shared notes, reminders, etc. There are sharing provisions in most cloud-based accounts. Sometimes it's quite simple, but as soon as you add additional layers - one or more personal calendars, plus a shared family calendar - it adds complexity (like remembering to put shared events in the Family calendar, but personal stuff in your personal calendar).

If you use iCloud Family Sharing to help bridge the gap between separate accounts and the sharing needs of the family. You'd automatically have one shared, Family calendar in addition to whatever other calendars you have created. You can also create additional shared calendars in the Calendars app or enable sharing on one or more of your current calendars. You also get a shared Family list in Reminders, and a Shared Album in iCloud Photos.

One feature that doesn't allow for sharing is Contacts. That may or may not be important to you - you can still send contacts to each other individually or as a group via iMessage or email.

While I understand your prudence in wanting to keep your financial passwords out of the cloud, Keychain/iCloud Keychain don't allow for that sort of segregation. If you enable iCloud Keychain, the local Keychains on your devices are merged into iCloud. You have to trust that Apple's security procedures for iCloud Keychain are sufficient. One of those techniques is that iCloud Keychain data is "end-to-end encrypted" - Apple does not have the encryption key, the encryption keys exist only on your devices.