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VanMac

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Hello.
We are producing a newsletter for our ranch.

I would like it to be printed on 11 x 17 paper. We will then fold it and mail it out. It will be mono, on a heavier bond paper. It will be low volume for the next while.

So, I'm looking at getting a printer that will do this, as opposed to sending it out for print. Nice to be able to do things in house, and we need a new printer anyway

I will need:
- 11 x 17
- duplex
- network

Any advice would be appreciated. Not looking to break the bank, but some of these large format lasers are looking kinda pricey....

Thanks in advance.
 
Pricey they definitely are.

I work in an engineering office and the 11x17 format is popular. We've always had good luck with HP printers, and I have some experience with a Ricoh copier that could print 11x17, but the duplexing was a nightmare - it would almost always jam.

If cost becomes too much of an issue, is outsourcing an option?
 
I've just bought a Konica Minolta A3+ Magicolor here in the UK. Probably not the best choice for you as it's colour and possibly a tad small in terms of output. (I think A3+ is half to an inch or so too small for you.) It's a great printer though. (Boy - am I glad to say goodbye to inkjets!)

My advice is if you're going to buy a decent printer - shop around now and haggle, as I was amazed at the deal I got (warranty extension to 3 years + 15% discount + a further 15% cash back and a free Wii games console - that was Xmas for the kids sorted!). Sales must have dropped off a cliff! (I think you might find similar deals as I suspect things are as bad in the US as here in the UK.)
 
Hello.
We are producing a newsletter for our ranch.

I would like it to be printed on 11 x 17 paper. We will then fold it and mail it out. It will be mono, on a heavier bond paper. It will be low volume for the next while.

...

I will need:
- 11 x 17
- duplex
- network

...
You can't do better than a Xerox Phaser 5550.
 
I've just bought a Konica Minolta A3+ Magicolor here in the UK. Probably not the best choice for you as it's colour and possibly a tad small in terms of output. (I think A3+ is half to an inch or so too small for you.) It's a great printer though. (Boy - am I glad to say goodbye to inkjets!)

My advice is if you're going to buy a decent printer - shop around now and haggle, as I was amazed at the deal I got (warranty extension to 3 years + 15% discount + a further 15% cash back and a free Wii games console - that was Xmas for the kids sorted!). Sales must have dropped off a cliff! (I think you might find similar deals as I suspect things are as bad in the US as here in the UK.)

Hi there. I have been looking at getting one of these for our small design studio. Which model did you get? I'm comparing the 7450 and 8650. Can I ask where you ordered from?
 
I've been looking for a good printer also, I have like 1300 for one. Has anyone used the solid ink printers or are laser best. I would need it for printing band flyers and such.
 
Bobbydaz - I got mine from a company called Printerland.
(http://www.printerland.co.uk/) It's a 7450.

They seemed pretty OK to deal with. I think in the end the deal was something like £1500 for the printer + a £200 cash back + 3 year warranty + a Wii games console. The cashback and warranty came direct from Konica and took about a month to arrive / confirm. The games console came from Printerland and again took about a month. I think if you don't take it they'd give you a further £80 off. (The cheapest I'd found earlier in the year was about £1800)

I guess in real terms I therefore paid about £1300. (+VAT) I'm pleased with the printer. It's quick and the output is pretty good. Having the 3 year warranty is reassuring. From what I could see the difference between this one and the 8650 was printer trays and speed. If there's a small group of you I'd be tempted by the 8650. Leaving the A4 in the manual feed if fine for me but probably not for a small work group.

The only issue is that it comes with those wretched 'starter' cartridges. I've just had to order up a full new set within 2 months of use.
 
Bobbydaz - I got mine from a company called Printerland.
(http://www.printerland.co.uk/) It's a 7450.

They seemed pretty OK to deal with. I think in the end the deal was something like £1500 for the printer + a £200 cash back + 3 year warranty + a Wii games console. The cashback and warranty came direct from Konica and took about a month to arrive / confirm. The games console came from Printerland and again took about a month. I think if you don't take it they'd give you a further £80 off. (The cheapest I'd found earlier in the year was about £1800)

I guess in real terms I therefore paid about £1300. (+VAT) I'm pleased with the printer. It's quick and the output is pretty good. Having the 3 year warranty is reassuring. From what I could see the difference between this one and the 8650 was printer trays and speed. If there's a small group of you I'd be tempted by the 8650. Leaving the A4 in the manual feed if fine for me but probably not for a small work group.

The only issue is that it comes with those wretched 'starter' cartridges. I've just had to order up a full new set within 2 months of use.

Thanks for the info. Funny enough I found a link for Printerland over the weekend. There are 3 people in our workgroup and I would say we are not printing out all day every day so would a 7450 do for us? Are you using it in a graphic design environment? How accurate is the colour output on this printer? Our screens are fairly accurate, but our current laser printer is way off hence the need for a replacement.
 
I'm a graphic designer and I'm quite happy with it's output. If though, you've already got a laser and want to improve the quality of the output then I'd suggest get a test print done and compare. If you want you could send me a pdf to test. (Send me a pm if interested). If you want proper proofing then I suppose an decent inkjet with a proper software rip is the answer...
 
We have 2 Ricohs here at my office. A CL7000 and a MP-C3000. Both have been excellent printers. Great color, easy duplexing. Just make sure it will allow the paper weight you want to use through the printer path. The other thing I would pay attention to is cost per page. If you opt for a color printer it could be anywhere from 10 to 50 cents (US) per page (one sided letter sized). So even at 10 cents, a two sided 11x17 would be about 40¢ to $2 a copy not including your time to fold them down. Anytime we have to print over 50 copies we send it out, especially if there is folding involved.
 
Always consider the cost per page over the base cost of the machine.

Youll spend a couple of thousand on a decent 11x17 duplex capable printer, but alot more than that on the toner replacements. :cool:
 
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