MP 1,1-5,1 Latebloom, Big Sur, and iCloud

[fireheadman]

What are you guys using your cMP for while tinkering with latebloom.

• Are you seeking a fully supported or working platform?
• To have a "dev" type platform (not caring if some apple functions, such as iMessage w/iCloud work?)
• or for another reason (for the challenge to see how far we can take the cMP?).

I like having my cMP on BigSur, but just recently learned (previously mentioned) I couldn't have my iCloud account linked to the system because certain services would not sync correctly. It works great for many other tasks/jobs I use daily (like working remotely). Because I will not be able to use my cMP w/latebloom in a "production style environment", I'll most likely not be able to update it (Mojave being the furthest 100% apple supported release).

Definitely curious of the outcome with latebloom, so will tag along on the adventure.

 

[startergo]

couldn't have my iCloud account linked to the system because certain services would not sync correctly.

Where did you read that?

 

[jgleigh]

I like having my cMP on BigSur, but just recently learned (previously mentioned) I couldn't have my iCloud account linked to the system because certain services would not sync correctly.

Not sure why that would be the case. I'm running a cMP 2010 with 11.5.2 (OCLP 0.2.4 w/latebloom) and all iCloud services work correctly.

 

[fireheadman]

Where did you read that?

I didn't read it... I'm activiely experiencing it.

I lost track on the number of open tickets with Apple (Since Jan), but know I am over 5 now. Since Jan 2021 (shortly after upgrading to BS on the cMP) I have not been able to sync iMessage content correctly between all devices. In the current ticket I have open with Apple, the DEVs refused to move forward when they noticed I had an "unsupported" device on my iCloud account. When asked what the device was, I was told my cMP running BS and is not supported (Mojave is the last supported release).

So to keep forward progress, I agreed to signout and delete the cMp from my iCloud account. After doing this and then disabling/re-enabling iMessage on other devices I had an influx of iMessages downloading (all the way back to 2017). The other piece of the story is.... I upgraded my iPhone 7 to a 10XS in Jan also. The 10XS was the 1st new device added since upgrading my cMP to BS. I am currently going through a 24hr period running a iMessage Profile from Apple to record/log how iCloud is running on each device so they can collect additional logs and hopefully correct the issue. (Issues being MMS content is not being downloaded to some devices on messages that recently downloaded after being stuck in iCloud for months. Could be an indexing issue... who knows.

@jgleigh since the issue isn't a "known issue" on my content not downloading... it could be specific to my account and you are considered lucky? Its just Apple DEVs pulling the trump card telling me BS was not intended for the cMP so they can shutdown the case/support unless I comply. Or maybe getting past 11.2.3 will help this issue (I just have to get past my case first)

 

[startergo]

Well yes, but what you are describing is not actually a proof that running BS on cMP broke the iMessage. It only shows that Apple refuses to provide a service if you have a device running unsupported OS on iMessage.

 

[fireheadman]

no... iMessage started downloading messages to my 10XS after I disabled iCloud services on cMP. Hard to say if that is coincidental or not. But will say, ticket after ticket from Jan to now, it started retrieving messages once the disable occurred.

 

[eVasilis]

no... iMessage started downloading messages to my 10XS after I disabled iCloud services on cMP. Hard to say if that is coincidental or not. But will say, ticket after ticket from Jan to now, it started retrieving messages once the disable occurred.

That could be related to your nvram. Try reseting it.

 

[haralds]

Not sure why that would be the case. I'm running a cMP 2010 with 11.5.2 (OCLP 0.2.4 w/latebloom) and all iCloud services work correctly.

No problems with mine. Everything works.

 

[MacRumors3590]

iCloud services all working perfect here.

 

[haralds]

Do you have Mojave installed. I always keep that around.
If you do, do a PRAM reset (3x chimes) and boot into that. Set up everything properly including iCloud. Omcer everything is working, try OC and Big Sur.
You might also reset your keychain under Big Sur before connecting.

 

[shadow_999]

No prob here with iCloud, I think it's more an issue with your account than an issue with the cMP. There are plenty of people even on supported hardware experiencing this kind of issue. The only difference is you won't get any support from Apple as you are on an unsupported hardware.

 

[socamx]

What are you guys using your cMP for while tinkering with latebloom.

My 4,1 -> 5,1 is the dual processor model, upgraded with 2x 3.33 Xeons. It's got a flashed RX 580 GPU for boot screen, SATA SSD on a PCIe card, and a USB 3.0 PCIe card. All four HDD bays are in use. It's a jack of all trades. Local NAS for files I don't need immediate access to, network Time Machine backup destination, remote backup for Linux servers over SSH/rsync, and a dual monitor workstation when needed.

Currently on OCLP 0.2.4 with Latebloom and running 11.5.2 with fully supported iCloud no problems.

I also have a backup, single processor 5,1 with a 3.33 upgrade in it, RX 480 which also is on 11.5.2 and Monterey no problems with full iCloud support.

And I also have a 2012 rMBP running Monterey and 2011 Mini running Big Sur both with working iCloud.

OCLP has made all of this possible with barely a hitch, and Latebloom for the cMPs.

 

[fireheadman]

sorry didn't realize my post created a new thread...
was wondering how I got #1 post?. Thanks for whoever did that.

My stance... I'm a member of this forum because I believe the cMP has lot of life left in it and if Latebloom becomes the answer to allowing future releases/updates to succeed, then I want to stay that path and continue using my cMP (and apply hdw updates as needed).


Status: As for now, I am still on OC v6.7 w/BS 11.2.3
I do have Mojave on an independent SSD (see signature for addition details)

I'm awaiting for Apple support to respond back on my iCloud issue; I am unable to correctly sync data (iMessage for now). When my cMP was connected, for whatever reason(s), I noticed my iMessage content would not correctly sync. Apple responded that they would not support the case until I remove said "unsupported" device.


Issue(s): Between my iPhone 7, iPhone10(XS), macbookPro mid-2013, and cMP (mid2010-flashed 2012bootrom).... Random messages that contained MMS content (HEIC/JPG/PNG/MOV...etc) would not display in the conversation.

1. Conversation would have empty bubble or bubble w/white, dog-ear'd paper icon) where MMS content sould be shown; or sometimes it would just have the text of the content "image_101.heic" as a placeholder.
2. In some cases, when experiencing the above issue, you could go into the "info" section of the conversation... This is where you would see images, files, links area, then expand the images "show more". In this case, I can see all the MMS data here, so the content lives in iCloud.... yet the images are not showing in the conversation.
   1. This causes confusion in conversations when you have a series of pictures and have no idea what goes where (since you see just empty bubbles or dog-ear'd icons)
3. When comparing all devices together, some devices will show all the MMS content and while some will show just a small amount of MMS content. There are no 2 devices will show 100% alike data.

All devices whether iOS or macOS are connected to iCloud and have iCloud enabled for iMessage.
Once I removed the cMP from iCloud and force a resync of iCloud... Overnight I received an influx of old iMessages (some with MMS content, others w/o it) but still incomplete. If I disable iMessage it will notify all messages are not completed downloading, Disable and Download. But when I do that function, where is the progress bar of the download?

The thing I do not understand is... all devices should "sync" to iCloud. iCloud should be the source of truth so that when a new device is added to the account, it should receive 100% of what is on all other devices connected. In my case, this is not happening. I agree that this should not be associated to the cMP, but in the meantime I have to walk the path of the "Apple-brick Road" so the iCloud wizards and maybe correct my issue(s).

EDIT: PS, I like reading about everyone that is not affected like this... Once latebloom is matured a bit more, I would like to perform a "Fresh/New" install of BS or Monerey and start fresh to see if this has a positive impact.