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raj

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Aug 13, 2003
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San Diego
This is interesting. My older Macbook Air 13" (mid 2012 model) has had a 3rd party battery in it for a while and the charging has always worked fine. Even after applying the original El Capitan upgrade, it still charged fine. Just this morning, I applied the latest El Capitan update and now it claims my system doesn't have a battery! I have changed nothing other than rebooting and applying the latest update.

My guess is that Apple has applied some MacOS changes which now recognize non-apple batteries and stop your system from using them! (I have now purchased a real Apple battery from an ebay seller, with a 90 day warrantee. We'll see if that fixes it.)

Just thought I'd send a warning out there!
 

simonsi

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Jan 3, 2014
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More likely your non-Apple battery just doesnt interface correctly like any 3rd party device or App, no need for an Apple conspiracy theory.
 

raj

macrumors member
Original poster
Aug 13, 2003
30
5
San Diego
More likely your non-Apple battery just doesnt interface correctly like any 3rd party device or App, no need for an Apple conspiracy theory.
Actually, there's plenty of reason for an Apple conspiracy. Everything was working just fine, with the battery charging, until the system rebooted to install the latest El Capitan update. No other changes were made, simply downloaded the latest update and rebooted. Before it rebooted, it was charging. After the reboot, the OS says there's no battery.
 

raj

macrumors member
Original poster
Aug 13, 2003
30
5
San Diego
Did you try resetting the SMC and PRAM?
Good idea! I should have tried that! I have tried it now, resetting both. It now recognizes that it has a battery but says it's at 0% and not charging.

I have a new Apple battery coming soon. I'm betting that'll fix it.
 

nmeed

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Dec 1, 2014
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Good idea! I should have tried that! I have tried it now, resetting both. It now recognizes that it has a battery but says it's at 0% and not charging.

I have a new Apple battery coming soon. I'm betting that'll fix it.
Where did you get the Apple battery from? I'm curious because I've been looking for actual Apple batteries for my iPhone 6 and I'm hoping the place you got it from would have them.
 

simonsi

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Jan 3, 2014
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Auckland
Everything was working just fine, with the battery charging, until the system rebooted to install the latest El Capitan update.

Yep but batteries have firmware these days so just like any 3rd party app/device a change of OS and you can find the firmware in the device doesn't comply...thats all I'm suggesting. I'm betting an Apple battery fixes it too, only onus Apple has is to make the OS work with Apple devices, not 3rd party devices that may take short cuts.
 

Icallea13

macrumors newbie
Aug 10, 2015
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Suffolk
This is interesting. My older Macbook Air 13" (mid 2012 model) has had a 3rd party battery in it for a while and the charging has always worked fine. Even after applying the original El Capitan upgrade, it still charged fine. Just this morning, I applied the latest El Capitan update and now it claims my system doesn't have a battery! I have changed nothing other than rebooting and applying the latest update.

My guess is that Apple has applied some MacOS changes which now recognize non-apple batteries and stop your system from using them! (I have now purchased a real Apple battery from an ebay seller, with a 90 day warrantee. We'll see if that fixes it.)

Just thought I'd send a warning out there!
[doublepost=1455717159][/doublepost]Hi, I was just wondering if you had any luck with your new apple battery...I recently upgraded to El Capitan and before I upgraded everything was fine with my battery, since then I have exchanged 2 non apple batteries and both are good for about a week and then they suddenly stop charging for no reason. I have had one battery exchanged by the supplier because I believed it may be faulty but that has just done the same thing again....Could it be that non apple products are being prevented from functioning since El Capitan upgrade?
 

raj

macrumors member
Original poster
Aug 13, 2003
30
5
San Diego
[doublepost=1455717159][/doublepost]Hi, I was just wondering if you had any luck with your new apple battery...I recently upgraded to El Capitan and before I upgraded everything was fine with my battery, since then I have exchanged 2 non apple batteries and both are good for about a week and then they suddenly stop charging for no reason. I have had one battery exchanged by the supplier because I believed it may be faulty but that has just done the same thing again....Could it be that non apple products are being prevented from functioning since El Capitan upgrade?

Sorry for being so slow responding. I need to see if Macrumors can forward responses to my email, so I see them!

i finally just gave up and bought an Apple battery. Of course, when I was installing it, I broke off the battery socket connector from the main circuit board! I have tried repairing it multiple times, but haven't gotten it working again yet. Sorry, I don't know any true story on whether or not Apple did something to disallow non-Apple batteries. I was hoping someone else would post something definitive.
 
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