macOS Learned Objective-c

[varsis]

I recently Learned Obj-c But I want to learn how to apply this all to an interface does anyone have any good suggestions to what I should do next I know the language Objective-c but not Cocoa. That is what I need to learn.

Thanks
Chris

 

[lancestraz]

I have the same problem. I just finished "Programing in Objective-C" and I was going to get "Cocoa Programming for Mac OS X" but it's so dated I'm not sure how helpful it will be.

Yes I could read the Apple documentation, but I learn better from physical books.

 

[varsis]

Yea, I read the same book, but it doesn't really help. I have Building Cocoa Applications. A step by step guide.

 

[HiRez]

Even though it is a bit out of date, I think the Hillegass book is still the best introduction to Cocoa (it might be more difficult if you are using Xcode 3.0/Leopard). Also try some of the tutorials on Cocoadevcentral.

 

[MacDonaldsd]

I agree with HiRez

The books are a bit out of date, but they are still relevant and useful and the best that are available.

I do hope for a newer range of books soon though

 

[mduser63]

Worth noting that Aaron Hillegass has said that he's working on a new version of Cocoa Programming for OS X that will cover changes made in Tiger and Leopard (Objective-C 2.0 related stuff, Core Data, Core Animation, etc). I think he said something like a March release date, but can't recall for sure.

 

[varsis]

Well i got around to looking around and now I sort of understand it. I guess it just takes time. But there is still a lot i don't know how to use. But I think I will have to learn. I tried to make a program idea but it's way too complicated. Should I start by creating several simple apps? Than work my way into a complicated one. I want to do something nice with it.

 

[mduser63]

Well i got around to looking around and now I sort of understand it. I guess it just takes time. But there is still a lot i don't know how to use. But I think I will have to learn. I tried to make a program idea but it's way too complicated. Should I start by creating several simple apps? Than work my way into a complicated one. I want to do something nice with it.

Yeah, definitely start simple. I think it's a really common mistake to come up with some really ambitious, cool idea right at first without realizing how long it's going to take and how difficult it's going to be. Then you start working on it, can't really get results you want fast enough, and give up for good. Much better to come up with some small, amusing apps that you can complete relatively quickly and mostly with the knowledge you have now. You'll see a much quicker payoff in terms of feeling the sense of accomplishment that will keep you interested. Eventually you'll get comfortable enough with the whole process to start on something big and continue it through to the end.

To put things in perspective, I've been working on an app for nearly 18 months now and I'm hoping to release version 1.0 at the end of January. This is a fully featured program with hundreds of (beta) users already, but I'm just trying to give you an idea of how long a complicated app can realistically take. Much better to start with some little apps you can have done in a day or two or a week.