i4k20c said:Hmmm. i am new to macs, but i always thought it was good to turn off the comp at night?
Are these checks performed in sleep, or only when it's fully "on"?rickvanr said:No, macs run scripts at night to clean up the discs and make sure every works smoothly. I leave my computer all 24/7. I just have it so that the monitor turns off if it's inactive for more then 3 minutes.
pdpfilms said:Are these checks performed in sleep, or only when it's fully "on"?
pdpfilms said:Are these checks performed in sleep, or only when it's fully "on"?
rickvanr said:No, macs run scripts at night to clean up the discs and make sure every works smoothly. I leave my computer on 24/7. I just have it so that the monitor turns off if it's inactive for more then 3 minutes.
gekko513 said:Yes, turning the computer on and off wears on the components the most.
Putting it to sleep is more gentle.
rickvanr said:No, macs run scripts at night to clean up the discs and make sure every works smoothly. I leave my computer on 24/7. I just have it so that the monitor turns off if it's inactive for more then 3 minutes.
CalGrunt said:If you're running 10.4.1 or higher, there is no need to leave it on at night to run the scripts. See the following thread and the thread that is mentioned in the following thread.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/157619/
Makosuke said:Worth noting that, depending on your computer, leaving it on 24X7 can get pricey; at around 120W idling, assuming you use your computer 8 hours a day (that's assuming you work 8 hours a day and spend most of your awake time at home on the computer), it adds up to 16X120W = 2KWh/day. At what I pay for electricity that works out to just shy of $7 a month. Sleep would save a little more (unlike previous towers, the G5s have some sort of hard switch so they use nearly nothing off, but about 10W asleep), but it's not nearly as big of a difference.
Personally, environmental concerns aside, $85/year is enough reason alone to put my G5 to sleep--that's a 250GB hard drive for the few minutes of cumulative inconvienence. Not as big a number with an iMac or laptop, but it's still money.
As far as wear-and-tear, if the drives are awake all the time, then it's probably a little harder on them being on 24X7 (not as bad as if they were being accessed 24X7, which most consumer drives apparently aren't built for, but they're still hot all that time), but most people sleep the drives periodically anyway, so it's the same. The only other moving part is the fan, which is definitely going to last longer being turned off 2/3 of the time. Nothing else really "wears out" one way or the other, so it doesn't matter one way or the other.
The cron jobs are the only issue, but it ain't worth that kind of money (and noise--my house is small) to get them run every night when it doesn't make that much difference anyway. I'm occasionally up at 4:30am anyway, so they happen then, and I'll take the 30 seconds to run 'em manually every once in a while just in case.
According to my logs, 10.4.2 doesn't have them running on wake every night, but the monthly job hasn't been skipped since I installed 10.4.1, so apparently *something* got changed, anyway.
fyrmedic said:can sombody tell me more about these scripts that run at night? I have never left my computer on all night so have these scripts ever run? do I need them to?
Can sombody explain. reeaalll slooowww how to manually run scripts I still have panther and am very confused.fayans said:I'm using Panther so normally I run those scripts manually and my Mac is put to auto-sleep when inactive. Once a week, I restart to reset.
I run MacJanitor for regular maintenance.fyrmedic said:Can sombody explain. reeaalll slooowww how to manually run scripts I still have panther and am very confused.
Good points, but sleep doesn't require the startup sequence neither the hardware checks, nor the software part.blaskillet4 said:I never understood that. Putting it to sleep causes it to:
Spin down the HD [Just as if it were off]
Turn off the display [Just as if it were off]
Stop any spinning media [Just as if it were off]
idle internal components [Just as if it were off]
Seems to me that putting it to sleep is almost the exact same thing as shutting the computer down... How is it that turning it off cause more wear?