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ratboy90

macrumors 6502
Original poster
Apr 15, 2009
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I've recently been thinking of switching from my 13" MBA to a Surface Pro 2 as my main device. Has anybody ever done this? I'm a student and do most of my work using Powerpoint or Google Drive. All my notes are stored in Evernote. So there is nothing software specific that is tying me to OSX. The only powerful software I use once in a while is Photoshop and Illustrator. The only thing that is scaring me is the smaller screen. My first thought was to trade my Air in for a Surface Pro 2 and a Chromebook with a 13" screen. I already own an Android phone and 7" tablet.
But if anybody has any experiences to share it would be much appreciated.
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
73,682
43,740
I personally think OSX is superior to windows, but it sounds like you have done your analysis and come up with a workable solution.

The surface 2 pro is not a bad machine, albeit expensive for a tablet. I prefer using a laptop for content creation but that's just me.

I think screen size is a personal decision and its really up to you whether the smaller screen is workable for you or not.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
I have both the 11" MBA and a Surface Pro 2.

Biggest issue with Surface Pro 2 is not necessarily screen size exactly, but GUI SCALING.

On a Mac we have Hi-DPI mode meaning user interface elements scale well, on the surface pro 2 the setup is different.


Desktop mode for example at default is set to 150% scaling. This makes gui elements easier to navigate on the smaller screen and more over with 'touch'...

For better effect and one that looks really great you can up this to 200% making windows easier to navigate and buttons easier to touch.

In the windows elements part of the equation all is well, GUI scales nicely and everything remains sharp, clear and icons are nice and clean.

BUT..... Then we get to programmes.


Photoshop CC (latest version of photoshop for creative cloud users) doesn't scale its GUI like HI-DPI version on mac. So you end up with tiny menu elements and such.

Worse still other applications scale but badly, resulting in things like onscreen menu bars being cut off, pixelated menu items, and the whole interface is just unusable in that mode.

Corel Painter X3, Sketchbook Pro for example are culprits of this, which means you can not run them properly with GUI scaling set to 150 or 200% and will need to change the whole desktop GUI scaling down to 100 or 125% which means once again you will end up with VERY VERY SMALL menu items and icons which are just awkward and cumbersome to navigate, even with pen input.

So yeah, that's the biggest issue you will have with desktop apps on the Surface Pro 2 until companies actually sort out HiDPI support for their applications on Windows.
 

sracer

macrumors G4
Apr 9, 2010
10,405
13,290
where hip is spoken
Already excellent comments posted.

I own a Surface RT, iPad 4, and a variety of OSX and Windows notebooks. MacRumorUser's experiences echo mine.

My advice, keep the 13" MBA and get a Surface RT (don't pay more than $150 for one). The RT has a nearly full version of MS Office. (you mentioned PowerPoint and Google Drive) PowerPoint on the RT is terrific. I've had the opportunity to give presentations in coffee shops and such using the RT.... and with a bluetooth mouse, I can navigate through the presentation easily and comfortably.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
I would keep the Air because it's more comfortable to use and carry IMO, plus I really don't like the new Windows interface.

And you can always use Windows via Parallels.
 

soulreaver99

macrumors 68040
Aug 15, 2010
3,710
6,447
Southern California
Stick with the Air. If you are able to find snag a Surface Pro for $499, go for it. It's totally worth it. I got mine and love it.

But to pay $999 for a Surface Pro 2+ the keyboard for $120 is absurd in my opinion. There really isn't THAT much of a difference.
 

sracer

macrumors G4
Apr 9, 2010
10,405
13,290
where hip is spoken
Can someone tell me how much faster is the surface 2 over the rt?
Not the pro.
Significantly faster...the difference is so dramatic that I would say that if the Surface is going to be your primary mobile tablet/netbook that it is well worth the price difference between the RT and the Surface 2.
 

Tsuchiya

macrumors 68020
Jun 7, 2008
2,310
372
It's tempting, but my issue would be typing. The attached covers are cool, but having to balance that on the tiny desk things in my lecture halls would be a pain in the arse.

_| opposed to _/|
 

b166er

macrumors 68020
Apr 17, 2010
2,062
18
Philly
I can't ditch my Mac, I don't think ever. Certainly not now with what the competition is offering. I find OSX superior in every way, same goes for Mac hardware. I use Windows at work and loathe it.

I use Android, and in general I'm always checking out different gadgets and mobile stuff, but as far as my computers go, I prefer Macs all the way.
 

Dreamliner330

macrumors 6502a
Sep 1, 2011
641
152
Pull up a webpage with pictures and scroll. The pictures don't stay square, they 'wobble'.

The Surface Pro 2 I played with in a store does this anyway...:rolleyes:

That said, the idea of an i5 powered machine (mac or PC) in a tablet form is definitely the way to go.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
25,370
8,952
a better place
Pull up a webpage with pictures and scroll. The pictures don't stay square, they 'wobble'.

The Surface Pro 2 I played with in a store does this anyway...:rolleyes:

That said, the idea of an i5 powered machine (mac or PC) in a tablet form is definitely the way to go.

Mine doesn't do this, it scrolls exactly same as my MBA
 

Dreamliner330

macrumors 6502a
Sep 1, 2011
641
152
Mine doesn't do this, it scrolls exactly same as my MBA
Dunno what to say. I think I was looking at a review page on The Verge and if I scrolled too quickly the pictures didn't stay perfectly rectangular. (It reminds me of the bending pencil illusion)
 

m98custom1212

macrumors 6502
Jul 20, 2013
287
1
Toledo, Ohio
I personally think OSX is superior to windows, but it sounds like you have done your analysis and come up with a workable solution.

The surface 2 pro is not a bad machine, albeit expensive for a tablet. I prefer using a laptop for content creation but that's just me.

I think screen size is a personal decision and its really up to you whether the smaller screen is workable for you or not.

For one its tablet/ultrabook/ultrabook 2 in 1
 
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