Not a lot. But that is not point for the post. But M1 Air or Pro is 5 years old, battery is likely worn out and SSD life is questionable anyway. And just assume if battery are being replaced, you probably can find battery on an older Intel machine for much cheaper.
For most people who are shopping for used computer, price is most important thing and performance is secondary.
Top spec 16” MacBook Pro performs equal to baseline M1 Mac (not the M1 Pro). If you can found one for lesser price.
And I think spending 700 euro for 2019 M1 MBP as Windows machine isn’t good move either. You could easily find Windows laptop with better spec, aka anything Alder Lake above for this kind of money.
That’s the point or for people who don’t want spend a ton on a computer.
Baseline M1 Mac only offers 8+256. Good luck fining M1 Mac with these budget with 16+500. You can easily find Intel Mac with 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD less than baseline Mac.
And no, recent Intel MacBook does feel like 10 years ago. And cheap Intel is not waste of money. What is waste of money is spending more money for things you don’t need. If all I am doing is light computing task, spending more money on AS Mac is waste of money.
Wowy, way to dissect my comment, but I guess I appreciate the effort.
Ok, so. My girlfriend was in the market for a laptop around two years ago. We looked around but ultimately there was nothing checking enough boxes. Solid but compact build, good feeling keyboard with backlight, big and precise and tactile trackpad, great speakers, great big screen, at least 1TB of storage, enough RAM for multitasking and many tabs.
That 16“ 2019 was just the right fit and actually a decent deal compared to similar models.
It running Windows was a must have, it running macOS natively a big plus for me, because I wanted her to get in touch with this much more fun and user friendly OS anyway. Turns out she enjoys it quite a lot too, especially the trackpad gestures.
The only downsides are no USB A port, no HDMI and a very power hungry Windows partition (uses more energy than can be charged sometimes…)
According to iStat Menus and one other disk app, don’t know which anymore, the SSD still has a lifetime of more than 90% left, more than enough for her needs over the next 5 years. Battery is also still ok, it’s in the 80‘s range but she can still watch 6 hours of Netflix on it, and is this has become a USB C household since I got my 15 Pro, there is always a charger around.
I myself bought a used but almost mint M1 Pro that’s been used since 2021 and it’s battery and SSD are also still solid.
How do you defend old Intel Macs but for M1 Macs all of a sudden SSD lifetime and battery are important? I’d much rather replace my M1 Pro battery than having to look for an entire new top case that’s probably used, too…
May be that most people care less about the performance, but they really should with Intel Macs, depending on what they want to use them for. Any M Mac is very capably, but all the i5 i7 i9 this and that GHz bs was and is now more than ever very annoying and confusing.
Problem with any M1 Mac compared to the 2019 16“ is first the screen, second the speakers and third the native Windows compatibility. We don’t intend on spending money for a VM.
Also, no need for a 265 8GB machine. 1TB with 32GB is much more appropriate, and you seem to agree, so I don’t really know what this is about.
I also agree with you that for some people and some activities a used, cheap Intel Mac might be sufficient. Just not for all. And it’s difficult to recommend someone a Mac that will retain its software bugs and hardware problems for the rest of time.
Also, OCLP isn’t really mainstream consumer friendly, so I wouldn’t judge a Mac by being able to run it.
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