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The iCloud issue is the biggest that needs to be improved it is like cancer messed up track names, wrong album cover, playlist on iPhone or Mac appears or disappears and albums added through iPhone don't seem to appear on Mac.

When searching a Artist or Album it does not show but some reason it does appears under artist the album but when trying to add album it crashes Cloud. When looking for the same album iPhone that you were not able to add your music playlist you are able to listen with no problem.

When you add a specific album from Apple Music where you see every track available to listen to not all tracks seem to add and the option Show Complete Album when doing that the missing tracks show up with add icon on the side of the missing tracks when clicking on it nothing happens even when you click on Add All Songs. But you are able to listen to those missing songs in Apple Music Store.

Cloud streaming through a Mac for some reason does not work you have no choice to listen offline or download on your Mac.

Apple Music Store big Album Covers are terrible slows loading and very annoying.


Those are some of the issues I have come through with Apple Music and iCloud Music (iTunes Match) if you can think of any other ones lets post here and of course any fixes for this issues are welcome.
 
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Make the iCloud Music Library cap ONLY include uploaded/matched songs and not songs added from the AM music library.

So if I'm reading this right, that would make AM completely separate, and iCML only for people with Match? Or are you thinking there would still be a "free" tier where the songs are available in the cloud but download to devices other than the primary with DRM?

Just curious - it doesn't matter to me either way, as long as AM fully functions without iCML. :)
 
So if I'm reading this right, that would make AM completely separate, and iCML only for people with Match? Or are you thinking there would still be a "free" tier where the songs are available in the cloud but download to devices other than the primary with DRM?

Just curious - it doesn't matter to me either way, as long as AM fully functions without iCML. :)

Right now, contrary to what Apple's PR has led me to believe, iCML is capped at 25,000 (excluding purchases). I had been led to believe, and even the error message for iTunes Match tells me, I could upload/match 25,000 tracks. Well, I matched about 3,000 and added around 22,000 tracks from the AM library (I'm an eclectic listener of soundtracks and such) and got told I hit my limit and all songs refused to upload/match or add from AM. I trimmed down duplicates and so-on and got it down to a lower number and can now: upload/match and add songs from my AM library. I'm going to be reaching my 25k cap again soon and I know it's going up to 100k in the fall, but this will still be an issue for me once I reach 100k (if I reach it).

I want Apple to make the iCML act like it was told from the beginning: allow up to 25k (or soon 100k) uploads/matches and then allow me to add any song from the AM library. They should be two separate services just like how purchases are treated as separate.
 
So if I'm reading this right, that would make AM completely separate, and iCML only for people with Match? Or are you thinking there would still be a "free" tier where the songs are available in the cloud but download to devices other than the primary with DRM?

Just curious - it doesn't matter to me either way, as long as AM fully functions without iCML. :)


It should be no different Apple Music is already in the Cloud since it a streaming service like Spotify which you can also listen offline and obviously there is DRM. As for purchased music Apple Music already has its own Matching system and yes if not mistaken DRM gets added to them which makes things more confusing and this is where Apple needs to fix by letting Apple Music Matching know that you did purchase from iTunes store and no need for DRM. Now the tricky part is once you cancel Apple Music and have no longer iCloud Music (iTunes Match) can you re-download your purchase from iTunes store even though DRM was added to your purchase, just like before when I had no iTunes Match I was able to re-download my purchase.

This are the major things that Apple should have explain at the Conference instead they gave a premature explanation about Apple Music and a really premature launch of Apple Music.
 
Right now, contrary to what Apple's PR has led me to believe, iCML is capped at 25,000 (excluding purchases). I had been led to believe, and even the error message for iTunes Match tells me, I could upload/match 25,000 tracks. Well, I matched about 3,000 and added around 22,000 tracks from the AM library (I'm an eclectic listener of soundtracks and such) and got told I hit my limit and all songs refused to upload/match or add from AM. I trimmed down duplicates and so-on and got it down to a lower number and can now: upload/match and add songs from my AM library. I'm going to be reaching my 25k cap again soon and I know it's going up to 100k in the fall, but this will still be an issue for me once I reach 100k (if I reach it).

I want Apple to make the iCML act like it was told from the beginning: allow up to 25k (or soon 100k) uploads/matches and then allow me to add any song from the AM library. They should be two separate services just like how purchases are treated as separate.

Ahh, I see what you're saying. I'm wondering, since the behaviour contradicts what Apple is saying, if what you're seeing is a bug and not what they intended. If so, hopefully they'll fix it. Odds are better if it's not by design.
 
Ahh, I see what you're saying. I'm wondering, since the behaviour contradicts what Apple is saying, if what you're seeing is a bug and not what they intended. If so, hopefully they'll fix it. Odds are better if it's not by design.

Definitely hoping so, reported it using iTunes Feedback, Tweeted Eddie Cue, emailed Apple Support, Reddit'd it, and am posting it here in hopes that I can get the word out to Apple.

The error message iTunes kept giving me was I can only upload 25,000 songs (when I only uploaded 3,000) and on iOS and Mac wouldn't let me add anymore from AM and it kept crashing iCML on Mac when adding new albums and songs past the limit.

So you are definitely right, this must be a bug or it's intended and Apple has to update their wording on this.

I'll give Apple one thing, 25k is much more generous than Spotify's 10k Saved Song (their My Music collection) limit http://community.spotify.com/t5/Spo...-allowed-in-quot-Your-Music-quot/idi-p/733759. Plus Apple is raising the limit to 100k. I just want them to clarify what the limit entails (uploaded/matched or uploaded/matched and AM). :)
 
I would be happy if it just did what it was supposed to do. Still having issues with adding playlist to one device and it shows the "check mark" like it was completed. Then it doesn't sync to other devices and/or doesn't actually show up on the device I created the playlist. So far I spend way to much time just checking behind it to see if it actually works.

All my setting are correct but execution is just lacking. I love the "theory" of this service if only it worked consistently.
 
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My wishlist:

1. option to list what playlists tracks are associated with
2. remove compilation view and include on artist view
 
Be able to add tracks to playlists without them showing up in your libary. Have compilation albums etc listed on the artist page. And a place to request albums/songs for the streaming service which is separate to where you request them for the itunes store
 
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