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DaveTaylor

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My dad tested the theory for me and it works, he put my mothers Orange sim card into his iPhone and it allowed him to download the Orange Carrier file and use Orange. I doubt it will work with the likes of Vodafone yet, nor T-Mobile or 3 as those two aren't going to be official.
 
My dad tested the theory for me and it works, he put my mothers Orange sim card into his iPhone and it allowed him to download the Orange Carrier file and use Orange.

wow that's a pretty huge claim. I don't follow unlocking. Hope this doesn't bite you in the ass. Be carful when you sling the word "Officially" around
 
wow that's a pretty huge claim. I don't follow unlocking. Hope this doesn't bite you in the ass. Be carful when you sling the word "Officially" around

Like I said my dad has tested it and it worked, just need someone else to test it to back it up now, you're correct it is a huge claim and if it's true well i'll be bloody chuffed :p.
 
According to this thread it's not supposed to work until next week. If it's working for you now, then good news :)

Kinda difficult to prove it as I could have just screenshotted any old carrier update box from iTunes, ermmmm I guess the way to prove it would be to show you the text difference on the carrier logo for Orange which can be seen here:

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My dad tested the theory for me and it works, he put my mothers Orange sim card into his iPhone and it allowed him to download the Orange Carrier file and use Orange. I doubt it will work with the likes of Vodafone yet, nor T-Mobile or 3 as those two aren't going to be official.

What did he do to get the official unlock? ie What did he do to his phone before he put your mother's card in the phone?

I ask since that screenshot can be achieved by using Blackra1n and Blacksn0w.
 
What did he do to get the official unlock? ie What did he do to his phone before he put your mother's card in the phone?

I ask since that screenshot can be achieved by using Blackra1n and Blacksn0w.

No worries with asking I know it's hard to believe with blacksn0w etc, but basically you put your Orange sim card in, the sync your iPhone then update it via the update button on iTunes the simple download and update the carrier file.
 
Yes, I apologise for doubting you. Lots of reports of it happening now :eek:

Don't worry about doubting me as it's a huge claim as it is, an official unlock is odd to think about. But it's true which makes me wonder if someone can fake a legit Orange ipcc file to any network can it be installed and unlock officially (somewhat) to any network?
 
doesn't seem to work for activation with the orange sims as mine is stuck at slide for emergency and iTunes asks to insert a valid iphone carrier sim
 
Is this 'true' unlock, can I then use it anywhere in world, or will it just change the lock from O2 to Orange, then I'll still be locked to using it in UK.
 
it only works cause a carrier update has been sent through to support Orange UK ahead of it's launch on the 10th. It's not a universal unlock, you would need to jailbreak then unlock with blacksn0w
 
it only works cause a carrier update has been sent through to support Orange UK ahead of it's launch on the 10th. It's not a universal unlock, you would need to jailbreak then unlock with blacksn0w

I have a 3gs running the semi-latest firmware, so still waiting for jailbreak/unlock to be ready.
 
I can confirm you can switch between orange and o2 each time requiring an update through iTunes. At work now will screen shot later.
 
badfoot: blackra1n jailbreaks and unlocks the latest firmware and baseband

Gav2k: did you do a fresh clean restore? (ala dfu) or was it a normal restore? if so was it done with an O2 sim to activate?
 
How likely is it that this state of affairs will continue? Will it be the case that we will be able to continue to do this in the future or is this a loophole that will ultimately be plugged?

Or is it likely that as new carriers sell the iPhone (Orange now and Vodafone early next year) that the iPhone is simply opened, in perpituity, to those carriers?
 
the supoprt for any carrier is there (should see how many carriers are supported in the carrier bundles folder on the iPhone).

The latest carrier update now enables official support for O2 and Orange, come the 10th November we should be able to officially activate in iTunes with an Orange sim and same for Vodafone when they officially release the iPhone.
 
I can confirm you can switch between orange and o2 each time requiring an update through iTunes. At work now will screen shot later.

I wonder if that means we could create two profiles through benm.at, one for each carrier, and be able to switch SIM cards/carrier files without connecting back to iTunes?
 
I tried my Orange sim card and got the message on iTunes:

The SIM card instersted in this iPhone does not appear to be supported
 
I wonder if that means we could create two profiles through benm.at, one for each carrier, and be able to switch SIM cards/carrier files without connecting back to iTunes?

Thats a fantastic idea. Surely they can only be locked via the carrier update so I don't see why this wouldn't work! Please report back if you try this.
 
well I managed to half inch someones O2 sim to activate yet when I stick my Orange sim in..... nothing happening just got signal bars showing in top corner but it's not connecting to orange no network searching messages.

EDIT: turned airplane mode on then off it searched then very quickly said invalid sim
 
So do you swap the sim cards while the iPhone is turned on and connected to iTunes and then sync? So:

1. Connect iPhone to iTunes with the iPhone turned on
2. Swap O2 sim for Orange one
3. Click 'sync'
4. Await and apply carrier update?

Is that right?
 
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