LOL, you failed hard there OP. That video is from CES, and was UPLOADED on JAN 7, 2010. The iPad was announced JAN 27, 2010. More like Apple mocking HP.
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I know, so....where's the Slate? Someone was ready for production, and it wasn't HP
I know, so....where's the Slate? Someone was ready for production, and it wasn't HP
Like what everyone else has said, the idea of a tablet computer is nothing new. Companies have been making them for years. In my opinion, I like Apple's since it isn't running a full desktop OS, but that doesn't necessarily make it "better." Sure, Apple may have created this recent tablet craze, but I don't think that all the other companies are copying them.
I don't think it is, HP did what LG did before the iPhone was announced.
They thought of what Apple would release and came up with how it would look physically, however, they didn't think about the UI.
All in all, it is about doing things well and that is why I'm looking to trade up from my netbook.
They thought of what Apple would release and came up with how it would look physically, however, they didn't think about the UI.
All in all, it is about doing things well and that is why I'm looking to trade up from my netbook.
tablets have always been around.
Now companies have just learned they need to use a "dumber" OS.
Now companies have just learned they need to use a "dumber" OS.
I know, so....where's the Slate? Someone was ready for production, and it wasn't HP
Evidently not apple either
Spending more on R&D does not necessarily equal a better product. If the two companies were only producing an OS with their R&D budgets then MS is obviously grossly inefficient. Product sales volume notwithstanding the quality of each product is roughly equal.
And if you look at the iPhone and iPod vs the Zune and Windows Mobile/Windows Phone 7 it is obvious who did better there. WP7 looks spiffy, but does it do that much more? Not really.
Apple also has a massively smaller development team for each product compared to MS. And MS should have a huge team considering that Windows required such a huge undertaking to fix performance and security issues (issues that Apple is, sadly, only really beginning to tackle but they are taking it more seriously).
Microsoft is, of course, really doing a lot better with their products as of late (as evidenced by Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7) but I don't think their R&D budget mirrors the quality of products in comparison to competitors. Apple on the other hand will have to really increase their R&D if they want to keep up/continue to beat their competitors.
Oh Good God. Seriously, a large number of people were expecting the Apple Tablet to be announced at the Jan 27th Keynote, so we all saw a surge of new tablets being announced. I have never seen so many tablet devices so focused on before. And do not tell me that the reason why tablets started showing up more was because Windows 7 provides an efficient tablet environment. That would be the biggest bunch of BS I've heard in a while.
Windows 7 is a horrible Tablet OS, and I'm not pulling this statement out of my ass. I've used it on a tablet and it was horrible and difficult to navigate.
Stop blinding yourselves into thinking the iPad played no part in the sudden surge of all these new tablet PCs. The OP has a point so please stop attacking him like he has no clue what he's talking about. He noticed a trend as any normal consumer would have.
BTW, I'm tired of how idiots keep using the term Fanboy in this forum and blaming them for the popularity of Apple's products. The iPad brings a lot to the table in terms of UI and ease of use.
BTW, Tablets have been around for a while, but they never really had a place in the past and no one really cared for them -- they were a cool concept, but were clunky in use. Now we're seeing more of them being released then we have ever seen before. And guess why? Because of the iPad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag3TNquUlEg
Apple comes out with a product, now everyone is making them too... How ironic is that?
uh no. these were all talked about well before ipad....just you think ipad came first and everyone copies apple
tablets have been made for years
I know, so....where's the Slate? Someone was ready for production, and it wasn't HP
HP have been producing Tablets for years - have a look at this one from way back when
They were actually really good machines (originally introduced by Compaq as the TC1000 before they were bought by HP who updated it and called it the TC1100) and had a removable keyboard that slotted into the bottom, converting it into a notebook. If anything, the design was ahead of the technology of the day because they were a bit underpowered...
The Op doesn't have a point. Indeed, the iPad is a different kind of tablet computer, but the OP made it sound as everybody is coping apple. Thats a bit of a stretch. Apple wasn't the first company to make a multi touch tablet. And the OP did fail miserably. He said look at this video. It shows tablets, and they look like the iPad. However no one knew what the iPad looked like until it was announced, so its more like Apple is making a look a like from the tablets shown in this video.
And regarding the fanboy statement. Its true. Apple could have put an i5 or i7 in the 13inch MBP. They have worked with Intel to produce custom chips. Apple could have gotten their hands on the arrenndale chips before everybody else, and made space in the 13inch to put them. But the fanboys praise Apple for the C2D, and don't think a company as innovative as Apple could put the chips in it.
The fanboys also put down Apple competitors. A fanboy claims they would rather own a 2.0GHz MBP for $1199 than a Dell quad core i7 for $1149 because the dell is made of cheap plastic and has poor battery life. The fanboys also defend stupid decisions that Apple makes too. They hate the idea of bluray even though Apple says "The future is now here at Apple" Well it seems in the future bluray is going to be standard in notebooks. The future also has Intel Core i3, i5, and i7s.
And what about the UI? All the windows tablets that I have ever looked at have been unwieldy to say the least. Just not worth the trouble. I'm trying to be polite about this.
This thread is about who came out with tablets first. Not about the UI. I did use a windows xp tablet. It was actually fun, but not something as fast as the iPad is.
Honestly, how compelling is blu-Ray? I have a player and it's "ok." It surely hasn't revolutionized entertainment like the DVD did. Apple is betting on a different future, one where we consume most media online. I guess we'll find out. But I'd bet with Steve-o on this one.
Oh I get it. Let's just look at the specs. That will surely tell the story, right??
I said that the windows xp tablet was cool. It seems as you agree with the OP, and thats why my brain automagically labels you as a fanboy... sorry.
Fact 1: Tablet computers with touchscreen (not necessarily multitouch) capability have been around for almost a decade, possibly more.
Fact 2: Apple spends much less on R&D, has a smaller development team, has fewer employees than Microsoft, yet IMHO Apple delivers better products.
Fact 3: Apple made over $3 billion profit and Microsoft made over $4 billion profit in the most recent quarterly report.
The only reason why the average consumer believes Apple made the first tablet is because Apple made it popular. They didn't make the first MP3 player or cellphone. They made it more popular, better, and revolutionized it. Most of my friends who didn't know and/or care about tablets now wants an iPad.
If Apple's marketing brings more competition to the table, that's perfectly fine to me. Some markets/products in the technology world need Apple's magic touch to get companies to redesign and rethink.
Fact 2: Apple spends much less on R&D, has a smaller development team, has fewer employees than Microsoft, yet IMHO Apple delivers better products.
Fact 3: Apple made over $3 billion profit and Microsoft made over $4 billion profit in the most recent quarterly report.
The only reason why the average consumer believes Apple made the first tablet is because Apple made it popular. They didn't make the first MP3 player or cellphone. They made it more popular, better, and revolutionized it. Most of my friends who didn't know and/or care about tablets now wants an iPad.
If Apple's marketing brings more competition to the table, that's perfectly fine to me. Some markets/products in the technology world need Apple's magic touch to get companies to redesign and rethink.
What was special about the iPhone then? Smart phones and multitouch were out years before it was launched.
Everything that predated the iPhone was either absolute garbage or was in movies. This is the exact same case with the iPad. If you don't believe me, go and ask now-iPad owners who have been using Windows their entire lives. To most people, the iPad is absolutely mind-blowing. Apple didn't pull the word "magical" out of their butt.
The amount of software and hardware engineering that went into the iPad is nothing short of massive, and in today's standards is absolutely novel.
Haters seem to fail to understand that mere mortals don't use bare metal. A piece of hardware is useless without usable, beautiful, and responsive software. Apple understands this, very well. They can get away with not-so-poweful metal because hardware isn't everything and software put out by others was (and still is) junk.
Now that the iPad is out, we will start seeing a whole new hord of iPad-killers.
People never learn.
What's so especial about the iPad then?
Apple did it right. Many of the previous attempts never really tried to figure out WHY tablets haven't sold before. The OS has never been totally optimized for a tablet interface. They just bolted it on to existing OS's, which just won't work.
Even if those Windows 7 or Linux tablets are totally built for finger interaction, the applications won't. Very very few applications will work well with a touch screen interface. This gives Apple an incredible advantage over Microsoft or any other company that they won't be able to touch with a 10' pole. The _only_ company that stands a chance is Android. Another OS built from the ground up with touch interface in mind.
Just like smart phones have been around for ages. I can't tell you how many of them I have bought in the past and they have all been total crap in comparison. Apple came along and did it right. They took their time and didn't release it until the time and device were right. They weren't pressured by artificial deadlines to get it out the door.
Look at how everyone jumped in the netbook bandwagon right away. Apple touched the waters a bit with the Macbook air but realized its not going to sell. There is still a market for the Macbook air, but its very very slim and there isn't nearly enough wow there.
I find it amusing that a recurring thread template here is that people go into arguments with different definitions of words, and then argue interpretations based on those definitions until veins burst, rather than simply acknowledging that they are talking about different things.
With the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad, as well as ... well, almost everything else Apple has ever made ... Apple didn't invent fundamental concepts or key technologies. The only possible exception is the Newton.
What Apple does is a triumph of product management. They have a market-oriented vision for their products and are willing to do it right. They are disciplined and don't try to imitate others very often.
The Windows world has a different dynamic, for whatever reason or reasons. It's not a lack of engineering. It's a lack of vision and discipline. There's a tendency to feature-stuff, rather than zeroing in on the user experience.
You even see that difference reflected here in the fanboys of the respective products.
With the iPod, the iPhone and the iPad, as well as ... well, almost everything else Apple has ever made ... Apple didn't invent fundamental concepts or key technologies. The only possible exception is the Newton.
What Apple does is a triumph of product management. They have a market-oriented vision for their products and are willing to do it right. They are disciplined and don't try to imitate others very often.
The Windows world has a different dynamic, for whatever reason or reasons. It's not a lack of engineering. It's a lack of vision and discipline. There's a tendency to feature-stuff, rather than zeroing in on the user experience.
You even see that difference reflected here in the fanboys of the respective products.
Seriously is this not a mac forum?
Can one of you alleged non fan boys who has actually owned one of the other tablets and thought it was useful and added to what ever experience for you please for the love of pete post which one it is that you used on an almost daily basis, and what was so great about it. Because I have a hard time seeing your point. Without real world experience to back it up.
As to the OP yes there were larger than a pda or phone tablets out prior to this just not with an OS geared specifically to touch in the mass market.
Can one of you alleged non fan boys who has actually owned one of the other tablets and thought it was useful and added to what ever experience for you please for the love of pete post which one it is that you used on an almost daily basis, and what was so great about it. Because I have a hard time seeing your point. Without real world experience to back it up.
As to the OP yes there were larger than a pda or phone tablets out prior to this just not with an OS geared specifically to touch in the mass market.
And gets more than 3 hours of battery life, a screen that doesn't suck, that doesn't get warm or require fans, that doesn't take 30 seconds to wake up and be usable, Etc., I could go on and on. So yes, technically it's true there's been a number of tablets for a number of years. But there's a reason the iPad is the first one to succeed: it doesn't suck.
Um, the whole basis of this thread is hinged on the fact that the OP believes that apple started the tablet and everyone is now following suit
That is just plain false
The reason tablets failed in the past was due to the limitations of the technology at that time. The really could pack enough processing power, storage, and memory into a small package 10-15 years ago. They were big and people really couldn't do anything practical with them. Now, technology is advanced enough to tuck a lot of computing power into a very thin design. Due to this, tablets will likely become very popular now. Kudos to Apple for the perfect timing, not the innovation.