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max2

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In all directions ?

I know it depends on how many walls and everything else in between but just a rough estimate.
 

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velocityg4

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While it varies wildly on walls, floors and other objects. I'd say about 30 feet for good reception in homes on average. It'll go further but signal quality gets really bad in most houses I've been in. Vertically, about the best you'll do is the next floor up/down before it gets really bad.

Really this varies a lot. Some houses it seems like 20 feet is the best you can do. Then other's work fine 50 or even 100 feet away. I had one customer where I could still get a signal 50 feet from the house. They just had one Airport Extreme in a 5,000 Sq ft house. Then another person in a similar sized house who has signal problems indoors with two Airport Extemes and three Airport Expresses (one wired two extenders).

The difference being all the walls and furniture inside. One is a very open layout and the other is packed with giant furniture and lots of heavy walls.
 
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While it varies wildly on walls, floors and other objects. I'd say about 30 feet for good reception in homes on average. It'll go further but signal quality gets really bad in most houses I've been in. Vertically, about the best you'll do is the next floor up/down before it gets really bad.

Really this varies a lot. Some houses it seems like 20 feet is the best you can do. Then other's work fine 50 or even 100 feet away. I had one customer where I could still get a signal 50 feet from the house. They just had one Airport Extreme in a 5,000 Sq ft house. Then another person in a similar sized house who has signal problems indoors with two Airport Extemes and three Airport Expresses (one wired two extenders).

The difference being all the walls and furniture inside. One is a very open layout and the other is packed with giant furniture and lots of heavy walls.

Good point thanks!
 

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All i want is at least 50 Mbps at least from 150 feet away if possible. Over 2.4 or 5 Ghz channel.
 

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All i want is at least 50 Mbps at least from 150 feet away if possible. Over 2.4 or 5 Ghz channel.

The only way you can get close to a guarantee is to run a couple Ethernet cables to various intermediate points and setup access points.

The next option is Powerline Ethernet adapters with access points. Either external AP or built in. However, 150 feet is a bit far. Especially since it won't be a straight shot over power lines. Moca adapters are a similar option. They have less noise to deal with but may interfere with some satellite and cable equipment. That's sort of the edge. You may achieve 50mbps.

While Ethernet is the best. Your situation may be a good candidate for Mesh WiFi. With a few hops along the way from the router to the end.

This is all assuming you are doing this indoors. If this is between say a house and barn. If you don't want to run Ethernet. Usually the next best bet is point to point networking. Using directional antennae, bridges and access points/routers.

If you want. You can try a router with external detachable antennae (I like TP-Link). Then replace them with aftermarket high gain antennae. That may get you there.
 
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The actual distance covered also depends on the radio of the client devices. Range will often be limited by the client's ability to push data to the access point. Most good APs will have much better antennas and radios than the average laptop or phone. It does you no good to hear the AP loud and clear if the AP cannot hear you.
 

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Good info so far. 150 ft...with walls...is unlikely to be good performance from any uni-directional AP.

Besides the things you can see and measure (distance, number of walls, etc), there are things you can't see that will affect range:

Wall construction
Unseen things in walls (plumbing, ductwork, etc,)
Other devices on network
Other networks or other noise/interference


So, to recap:

Get an AP much closer ( via: ethernet, powerline, mesh)
Get a directional and/or high gain antenne pointed to the spot you need it

I installed a Unifi Mesh AP on the outside back wall of my house to cover the back yard (two other APs inside). The coverage is good in the unobstructed yard. Inside a garage about 50 feet away, the signal is weak through a stucco wall. I could likely boost it a bit with a directional antenna, at a cost of less wide-angle coverage of the entire yard.
 

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Wall construction
Unseen things in walls (plumbing, ductwork, etc,)
Masonry (i.e., brick walls) is super good at blocking radio signals (cellular, WiFi). Iron oxide in the raw brick material is part of the explanation here.

A lot of metal will act as a Faraday cage, essentially like the metal mesh that envelopes a microwave oven.

Metal conduits? Shielded cabling? All of these block radio signals.

Water is also superb at blocking WiFi signals so because thoughtful where you put the aquarium tank.

A directional antenna with direct line-of-sight will extend range considerably.
 
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DaveFromCampbelltown

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It depends on so many things
  • The router. Some are simply better than others. I replaced an old Belkin router with a newer Huawei one.
  • Design of the house. I get really weak signal from our router to the living room because much of the signal is going through the long edge of the main hallway rather than across a wall. Also the room next to the router is the bathroom with tiles, pipes, etc to absorb signal.
The son eventually got tired of the weak signal and ran a network cable down the hallway, up around the doorway into the living room. It connects to the second router which simply acts as a WiFi point.

All this has had the unfortunate side-effect that we now see politicians of all flavours raving on Youtube at full 1080p. Previously they were all fuzzy and blocky and we would give up and watch kittens.
 
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