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I use the app Magnet, which a basic but decent window manager not just for the Finder but for other apps windows as well. But right now I need a window manager for just the Finder that will save to presets any window layout.

For example, I have two Finder windows, each taking up half the screen. On the left one I have some tabs, and on the right one, some other tabs. I need an app that once I have that window layout, I can save it with a name, and then if I change the layout or close any windows or tabs, I can call that preset with a drop down menu from the apps tray menu, or with a shortcut.

I thought there would be tons of apps that do that, but I still have to find one that does.

Any recommendations?
 
Just in case: a recent Magnet update caused severe problems in InDesign. If you're not using InDesign, you can discard this info.
I have zero Adobe software on my Mac and I intend to keep it that way. I do have the excellent Affinity Suite, which has the equivalents of Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, but much more powerful and at a small fraction of the price. And for that small price, I own it, I don't rent it.

I do have Adobe in my PC, but it's CS6, the last Adobe suite you could ever own.
 
I do have the excellent Affinity Suite, which has the equivalents of Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, but much more powerful

Yes, Affinity has some nice tools that are suitable for certain scenarios.

At this point, however, the Affinity suite is only suitable for small-scale operations (single users and such), and it also imposes certain limitations on the type of content you can produce. That's because Affinity tools currently cannot be automated or otherwise extended. So you basically are restricted to manual labor. Which, again, is perfectly suitable for many users.

Affinity has no chance in the professional publishing world until they at least introduce scripting APIs that match the abilities offered by Adobe. Affinity is well aware of this limitation.
 
I do have the excellent Affinity Suite, which has the equivalents of Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign, but much more powerful and at a small fraction of the price.
The Affinity Suite is really nice for what it is, but "more powerful" than Adobe's apps?? Puh-leez! They can't even come close to the feature set of any of the three Adobe apps they compete with – Particularly Affinity Publisher.

I agree with @zevrix - they are fantastic apps for content creators who have basic needs, don't share working files with anyone else, have no need for add-ons, extensions, or scripting – and who don't work in a corporate, agency, or commercial printer environment.

Affinity has no PDF solution, no DAM system app like Lightroom or Bridge, lacks the free use of thousands of commercial fonts, no video solutions, no audio solutions, no animation solutions, no.... oh heck, my list can go on but it's getting too long.
 
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Yes, Affinity has some nice tools that are suitable for certain scenarios.

At this point, however, the Affinity suite is only suitable for small-scale operations (single users and such), and it also imposes certain limitations on the type of content you can produce. That's because Affinity tools currently cannot be automated or otherwise extended. So you basically are restricted to manual labor. Which, again, is perfectly suitable for many users.

Affinity has no chance in the professional publishing world until they at least introduce scripting APIs that match the abilities offered by Adobe. Affinity is well aware of this limitation.
I've been a videographer for about 25 years, and I can't say I had to use Adobe InDesign much, but I had to use Photoshop and Illustrator often. I didn't always had the luck to choose the job I wanted to do, and many jobs I had were not purely about video, they often involved graphic design, by itself or using those two programs in service of video production.

I worked in small companies, and large corporations. I never had to use either Photoshop or Illustrator with any scripting or add-ons. That said, I recognize that some companies may need those, but I have never heard of anyone needing any scripting or add-ons, at best the batch tools that come with them, and Affinity has batch tools.
 
The Affinity Suite is really nice for what it is, but "more powerful" than Adobe's apps?? Puh-leez! They can't even come close to the feature set of any of the three Adobe apps they compete with – Particularly Affinity Publisher.

I started using them in December 2021, and I'm still surprised to find so many things that are better in their Photo app than Photoshop. Photoshop is a dinosaur, it's been the same thing for decades and they keep slapping features on top.

I agree with @zevrix - they are fantastic apps for content creators who have basic needs, don't share working files with anyone else, have no need for add-ons, extensions, or scripting – and who don't work in a corporate, agency, or commercial printer environment.

That's where you're wrong, they provide way more than basic needs. You're talking about the Affinity Suite as if it was Microsoft Paint or something similar, when they are really powerful and well designed programs. Also, you should do your homework before you state that they don't have add-ons, when a simple google search shows that it has add-ons:


Now, you may in any case that it doesn't have the add ons that you or some people may need, and that's fair, but it does have add-ons.

Affinity has no PDF solution, no DAM system app like Lightroom or Bridge, lacks the free use of thousands of commercial fonts, no video solutions, no audio solutions, no animation solutions, no.... oh heck, my list can go on but it's getting too long.

No PDF solution? Well, first I need to ask you what exactly do you mean by that. Maybe you're referring to some specific PDF need. However, I opened plenty of PDFs in Affinity Publisher without any problem, and exported them as PDFs as well. I can't remember if A Photo has PDF export, but I know Designer and Publisher do.

Lightroom is not a DAM, it's a cataloging app for photos, and a very good one, even if it's rather slow unless you have an insanely fast Mac or PC. But yes, since I stopped paying for Adobe CC in 2020 I've been trying to find a Lightroom equivalent and there's nothing that has the same features. If I could buy it, I would, but I'm not renting software.

The one thing that puzzled me in your statements above is "lacks the free use of thousands of commercial fonts". I have no clue what you mean by that. All three Affinity apps use the fonts you have installed in your system. You can use them for free, as long as they are free fonts or you paid for them if they're not. I really would like to know what you meant by that.

My point is, of course there are case scenarios for which certain companies need the Adobe apps, but most Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign users use those because of the same vicious circle, everybody uses Adobe because everybody uses Adobe. It's not because it's good, or because it provides a good value, because it's the most expensive solution for creatives these days. You rent mediocre software for $720 a year. I paid $100 in December 2021 when it was on sale and right now it's $165. Whenever they decide to release a version 3, I will be happy to pay probably $100 for the upgrade. All three apps had tons of updates since I bought them, all free of course.

FCPX along with Compressor and Motion is a suite I paid $400 for in 2015 and it's been updated dozens of times since then without asking me for a dime. DaVinci Resolve Studio is $300, or comes with any Blackmagic Design camera, and you never pay again for an update, either minor or major version.

So yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Adobe is dead. Hopefully some day they will be done, since creatives are fed up with not only the quality of their software, but the invasive policies for their AI platform.
 
I've been a videographer for about 25 years, and I can't say I had to use Adobe InDesign much, but I had to use Photoshop and Illustrator often.

I worked in small companies, and large corporations. I never had to use either Photoshop or Illustrator with any scripting or add-ons. That said, I recognize that some companies may need those, but I have never heard of anyone needing any scripting or add-ons, at best the batch tools that come with them, and Affinity has batch tools.

It's indeed mostly InDesign that is involved in complex automation workflows, and which benefits from various other automation solutions. There's a reason why Adobe has InDesign Server (in addition to the regular InDesign), but no server versions of Photoshop and Illustrator. InDesign Server, btw, costs $5000-$13500 per year.

My original post only mentioned InDesign (and wasn't related to Affinity in any way); it's a reply to my post that brought the Affinity thing up.

Affinity Publisher (their competitor of InDesign) doesn't have any batch tools.
 
Also, you should do your homework before you state that they don't have add-ons, when a simple google search shows that it has add-ons:

While they do call it "add-ons", these are just a few extra visual effects and templates. Affinity products are currently not extendable; they don't provide any APIs for this.
 
...Photoshop is a dinosaur, it's been the same thing for decades and they keep slapping features on top.
Which is it? It can't be the same thing for decades if they keep "slapping features on top." And decades? You realize that in decades, Photoshop added so many large-scale features that I can't even begin to count them all; starting with Non-Destructible Adjustment Layers and Smart Objects.

You're talking about the Affinity Suite as if it was Microsoft Paint or something similar, when they are really powerful and well designed programs.
I never said they weren't powerful or well-designed. They are. They're just not up to snuff with Adobe's much more mature and feature-rich software.

Also, you should do your homework before you state that they don't have add-ons, when a simple google search shows that it has add-ons:
No serious designer, photographer or content creator considers a few dozen brush packs to be "add-ons." C'mon, surely you're not serious with that.

No PDF solution? Well, first I need to ask you what exactly do you mean by that.
If you have to ask, then it pretty much describes your experience level... which more or less makes all your other comments moot.

The one thing that puzzled me in your statements above is "lacks the free use of thousands of commercial fonts". I have no clue what you mean by that.
See my response to your PDF comment directly above. The same applies here.

So yeah, as far as I'm concerned, Adobe is dead. Hopefully some day they will be done, since creatives are fed up with not only the quality of their software, but the invasive policies for their AI platform.
Both of those statements are your opinion, not fact. And the sheer number of users of Adobe Creative Suite (both existing and new) proves otherwise.

Look, I don't enjoy paying subscriptions, and I own both Adobe Creative Suite and Affinity's suite of apps. I've used both EXTENSIVELY. In other threads about this topic, I've stated that I think Affinity Designer, in particular, can compete with Adobe Illustrator for "most use cases." But even that is nothing more than my opinion based on my own use case - which is limited to icons, logos, and simple charts & graphs (which I can't recall if Affinity Designer can even create). But I also know plenty of professional illustrators who would call me crazy for saying that.

I realize that Affinity (now Canva) is popular in certain parts of the world, but here in the U.S. you would be hard-pressed to find 3 out of 10 designers/content creators who have even heard of the products, let alone use them. That is to say: "Good luck getting a job at an ad agency, design firm, video production house, or even photography studio telling them you don't use Adobe products but you're great at Affinity Photo."
 
I use the app Magnet, which a basic but decent window manager not just for the Finder but for other apps windows as well. But right now I need a window manager for just the Finder that will save to presets any window layout.

For example, I have two Finder windows, each taking up half the screen. On the left one I have some tabs, and on the right one, some other tabs. I need an app that once I have that window layout, I can save it with a name, and then if I change the layout or close any windows or tabs, I can call that preset with a drop down menu from the apps tray menu, or with a shortcut.

I thought there would be tons of apps that do that, but I still have to find one that does.

Any recommendations?
https://manytricks.com/moom/

Moom saves layouts the way you describe. Whether you can have multiple instances of just the Finder you would have to investigate.
 
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