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leetard

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 14, 2006
24
0
I was extremely frustrated with the iphone treating all of my mail as new and unread! Even after I archived everything and the inbox was empty, I was still getting the same damn emails on my phone!

Gmail does not have the ability to sync or push your mail, BUT there is a great work around that I read about that makes it simple.

On your computer:
1) Set up a FREE AOL account. This will be used for syncing and push ability from gmail to your iphone (AOL offers free IMAP which is what you've been wanting your gmail account to do!) * Don't worry, all gmail will go to your phone and all email sent by you will still have *******@gmail.com as the sender!
2) After that's set up, go to your gmail settings and set up a new filter. In the "To:" field enter your gmail address. This means that the filter will apply to all email that is sent to you. Click next. Check "skip inbox" check "Apply the label" (I made a label called iphone). Then check "Forward it to:" and enter your new aol account info there.
*This will forward all email to your phone tag them, and automatically archive them in gmail!

On your iphone:
1) Delete all of your email accounts so you're starting fresh.
2) Set up a new account, but don't choose gmail! Choose "other"
3) Select the IMAP tab and fill in the info like this:

Name: your name
Address: your gmail address
Description: whatever you want to call it

Incoming Mail Server:
Host name: imap.aol.com
User name: your aol user name
Password: your aol password

Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):
Host name: smtp.gmail.com (If mail doesn't seem to be sending, try "smtp.mail.google.com" instead)
User name: your gmail name
Password: your gmail password

That should do it! To test it, send something to your gmail from another account (hotmail... etc.) Bam! right to your phone! Then for a real kicker, reply back to it from your iphone and look at the email address.... gmail!
This has helped me immensely and I hope it helps you too

Lee
 

martinmartin

macrumors 6502
Jun 5, 2007
435
1
Does aol have push email - meaning will the email get to my phone as soon as it gets to the server?

My old Blackberry could do this with both my Gmail account and my work account.

This is not the case on the iphone, though...

Thanks.

Edit - my second question is, if this does support push email and the email comes directly to my iphone, is there a way to setup my business email so that it functions in the same way (forwards to a push service but still shows my @business address in replies, etc). THanks.
 

ScottDrummer

macrumors 6502
Jun 27, 2007
339
0
Canada
or you could just use Recent.
on your login details, for the username put "recent:yourusername@googlemail.com"

this will then fetch the recent emails, 30 days irc
 

martinmartin

macrumors 6502
Jun 5, 2007
435
1
yep, that's what I do too. Nice description for those who don't have this set up yet.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is the reason behind doing this?

Does this make emails arrive instantly on the iphone, or does this help in terms of syncing up mail with programs like mail.app, entourage, etc.?

I'm looking for a way for emails to arrive instantly on my iphone like they did on my Blackberry while allowing me to reply from the *correct* address.

Thanks in advance.
 

d21mike

macrumors 68040
Jul 11, 2007
3,320
356
Torrance, CA
My understanding is that ALL IMAP Servers will only deliver based on your Poll Setting which has a min of 15 min. The only Push is Yahoo.

Can anyone with AOL confirm this. My thinking is that maybe it was just a timing thing unless AOL figured out what Yahoo was doing and started supporting it. If so, this would be a major find.
 

Angelo921

macrumors 6502
Jul 30, 2007
335
11
I was extremely frustrated with the iphone treating all of my mail as new and unread! Even after I archived everything and the inbox was empty, I was still getting the same damn emails on my phone!

Gmail does not have the ability to sync or push your mail, BUT there is a great work around that I read about that makes it simple.

On your computer:
1) Set up a FREE AOL account. This will be used for syncing and push ability from gmail to your iphone (AOL offers free IMAP which is what you've been wanting your gmail account to do!) * Don't worry, all gmail will go to your phone and all email sent by you will still have *******@gmail.com as the sender!
2) After that's set up, go to your gmail settings and set up a new filter. In the "To:" field enter your gmail address. This means that the filter will apply to all email that is sent to you. Click next. Check "skip inbox" check "Apply the label" (I made a label called iphone). Then check "Forward it to:" and enter your new aol account info there.
*This will forward all email to your phone tag them, and automatically archive them in gmail!

On your I iphone:
1) Delete all of your email accounts so you're starting fresh.
2) Set up a new account, but don't choose gmail! Choose "other"
3) Select the IMAP tab and fill in the info like this:

Name: your name
Address: your gmail address
Description: whatever you want to call it

Incoming Mail Server:
Host name: imap.aol.com
User name: your aol user name
Password: your aol password

Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):
Host name: smtp.gmail.com
User name: your gmail name
Password: your gmail password

That should do it! To test it, send something to your gmail from another account (hotmail... etc.) Bam! right to your phone! Then for a real kicker, reply back to it from your iphone and look at the email address.... gmail!
This has helped me immensely and I hope it helps you too

Lee

I did what you said but now when I receive an email on my iPhone to my gmail address and try to respond to it, it does send. Any ideas why?
 

leetard

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 14, 2006
24
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Yeah, gmail is by no means pushed, but this option is way better than the standard gmail option from the iphone.

15 mins is the quickest poll, but that's not bad for free IMAP!
Come on gmail! Get with it.
 

leetard

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 14, 2006
24
0
I did what you said but now when I receive an email on my iPhone to my gmail address and try to respond to it, it does send. Any ideas why?

For the outgoing server try: smtp.mail.google.com instead... I remember reading that that was an issue for some people.
 

martinmartin

macrumors 6502
Jun 5, 2007
435
1
Yeah, gmail is by no means pushed, but this option is way better than the standard gmail option from the iphone.

15 mins is the quickest poll, but that's not bad for free IMAP!
Come on gmail! Get with it.

This option is way better in terms of what? If the emails arent pushed, then dont you still have to wait 15 minutes?

THanks.
 

Racktacular

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2006
124
0
I tried setting this up but it won't send out e-mails. I tried both the smtp.mail.google.com and the smtp.gmail.com. Here is the error message I get: "Cannot send mail. The connection to the outgoing server "smtp.mail.google.com" failed."

Any thoughts as to why?
 

QCassidy352

macrumors G5
Mar 20, 2003
12,066
6,107
Bay Area
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the reason behind doing this?

Does this make emails arrive instantly on the iphone, or does this help in terms of syncing up mail with programs like mail.app, entourage, etc.?

I'm looking for a way for emails to arrive instantly on my iphone like they did on my Blackberry while allowing me to reply from the *correct* address.

Thanks in advance.

No, as others have said, it does not push mail. There are several benefits, though. First, this allows you to use IMAP, so your iphone and your mac stay in sync (well, actually, mail sent from the iphone appears on your mac, and on the gmail web interface, but mail sent from your mac does not appear on your iphone. the iphone mail client just isn't advanced enough). Second, it gets rid of the problem where mail that is sent from the gmail web interface appears as new mail in your inbox. Third, the same mail does not appear as "new" in both your iphone and your mac. (in my experience, the second and third problems are an either/or, depending on whether you use "recent" or not.)

If your main concern is pushed email then this isn't going to help. However, it is IMAP, and it is the most elegant way of using gmail with a mac, an iphone, and the web interface that I have found.


what is the best method for getting rid of sent mail from appearing in my inbox?

As I noted above, I think that problem happens when you use "recent" with gmail. The alternative is to turn off recent, but that creates the problem of mail being downloaded as new to both your iphone and mac. The solution the OP described is the best I've found.

I know that you're probably hesitant to use AOL (or maybe to add any additional email address to the equation), but I've found it to be totally seamless. Mail comes in to gmail, gets fowarded to AOL, and then gets downloaded as new to whatever device you check with first. Whatever you do with that message will be synced across devices. And best of all, when you send from either the iphone for your mac, the outgoing message sends from gmail, not AOL.

I tried setting this up but it won't send out e-mails. I tried both the smtp.mail.google.com and the smtp.gmail.com. Here is the error message I get: "Cannot send mail. The connection to the outgoing server "smtp.mail.google.com" failed."

Any thoughts as to why?

My iphone is set up to send mail from:
smtp.gmail.com:465
465 being the port. I don't know remember if I added that or the iphone did, but it's worth a shot. Afraid I don't have any more advice for ya. :-/
 

leetard

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Nov 14, 2006
24
0
I Ain't no computer jenyus

I'm sorry I cannot troubleshoot this with everyone, mainly because I don't know how it works... it just does... for me anyways!
I didn't even know what IMAP was before I set this up (if that gives you any idea!)
I've triple check my settings and made sure they are accurately described in the OP.

Thanks to the above poster for clarifying a few things for me!

Again, this doesn't push mail. It solves a few problems that bothered me most:

-Getting mail from myself in my inbox :mad:
-Getting the same old, already read messages as new messages on my iphone :mad:
-Having no synch ability :mad:

I wish I could be more help, I just wanted to share what I found to have helped me.
 

suneohair

macrumors 68020
Aug 27, 2006
2,136
0
I don't want to mess with AOL. I am using my dreamhost account, which supports IMAP-IDLE. I get emails down to my iPhone without polling in under 3 minutes. I am going to see if I can get that a bit shorter. Today I got a new message in under a minute.

My plan is to move all mail to my new email address. Since I plan on keeping my domain for the rest of my life, I figure why not. I like gmail, but I have definitely outgrown it. No IMAP is a killer really. My new solution once worked out will offer me low cost near-push IMAP. Hopefully Apple will tweak Mail so that the IMAP-IDLE works better.

I setup Roundcube on my server so I have a nice webmail interface (read: I hate squirrelmail).
 

martinmartin

macrumors 6502
Jun 5, 2007
435
1
No, as others have said, it does not push mail. There are several benefits, though. First, this allows you to use IMAP, so your iphone and your mac stay in sync (well, actually, mail sent from the iphone appears on your mac, and on the gmail web interface, but mail sent from your mac does not appear on your iphone. the iphone mail client just isn't advanced enough). Second, it gets rid of the problem where mail that is sent from the gmail web interface appears as new mail in your inbox. Third, the same mail does not appear as "new" in both your iphone and your mac. (in my experience, the second and third problems are an either/or, depending on whether you use "recent" or not.)

If your main concern is pushed email then this isn't going to help. However, it is IMAP, and it is the most elegant way of using gmail with a mac, an iphone, and the web interface that I have found.
/

Thanks for the clarification.

I'll just continue to wait - hopefully, they'll find a way to speed up the delivery process...

Cheers.
 

Lartymarf

macrumors regular
Aug 11, 2007
132
6
Holy sh*t... this works AWESOME!!!

Wait hold on.. how come my mail is not coming through again... let me see...
 

drewfus

macrumors 6502
Jul 3, 2006
272
59
Evanston, IL
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong...I'm still getting all the mail that I've received and read on my computer as being new on the iPhone. Is this aol workaround supposed to fix that? Or did I misread?

I followed all the instructions and have no problems sending mail at all, for what it's worth!
 

thechidz

macrumors 68000
Jul 25, 2007
1,886
1
New York City
I was extremely frustrated with the iphone treating all of my mail as new and unread! Even after I archived everything and the inbox was empty, I was still getting the same damn emails on my phone!

Gmail does not have the ability to sync or push your mail, BUT there is a great work around that I read about that makes it simple.

On your computer:
1) Set up a FREE AOL account. This will be used for syncing and push ability from gmail to your iphone (AOL offers free IMAP which is what you've been wanting your gmail account to do!) * Don't worry, all gmail will go to your phone and all email sent by you will still have *******@gmail.com as the sender!
2) After that's set up, go to your gmail settings and set up a new filter. In the "To:" field enter your gmail address. This means that the filter will apply to all email that is sent to you. Click next. Check "skip inbox" check "Apply the label" (I made a label called iphone). Then check "Forward it to:" and enter your new aol account info there.
*This will forward all email to your phone tag them, and automatically archive them in gmail!

On your iphone:
1) Delete all of your email accounts so you're starting fresh.
2) Set up a new account, but don't choose gmail! Choose "other"
3) Select the IMAP tab and fill in the info like this:

Name: your name
Address: your gmail address
Description: whatever you want to call it

Incoming Mail Server:
Host name: imap.aol.com
User name: your aol user name
Password: your aol password

Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):
Host name: smtp.gmail.com (If mail doesn't seem to be sending, try "smtp.mail.google.com" instead)
User name: your gmail name
Password: your gmail password

That should do it! To test it, send something to your gmail from another account (hotmail... etc.) Bam! right to your phone! Then for a real kicker, reply back to it from your iphone and look at the email address.... gmail!
This has helped me immensely and I hope it helps you too

Lee

I havent had any problems with gmail on iphone:apple::eek::eek:
 

QuarterSwede

macrumors G3
Oct 1, 2005
9,887
2,159
Colorado Springs, CO
Yeah, gmail is by no means pushed, but this option is way better than the standard gmail option from the iphone.

15 mins is the quickest poll, but that's not bad for free IMAP!
Come on gmail! Get with it.
I was going to say that when using my school's IMAP service as soon as the server got my mail it was synched to my mail app. I tested it myself, no delay.

Also, couldn't you just forward your gmail to a yahoo account? I heard that yahoo mail can push.
 
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