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symphony

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Because you can’t interact with anything while there’s an animation. Sometimes there’s just an arbitrary pause before you can even interact with it.

Example #1: You’re deep inside a directory of folders in Files, you can’t spam the back button, because every second tap/click doesn’t register unlike a Mac. You gotta wait for the animation.

Example #2: You tap on a folder in Files to view its contents, but thru muscle memory you know the second folder you wanna dive into is in the same spot as the first folder that you just tapped/clicked on. However you can’t quickly interact with it until almost a second has passed, unlike a Mac. You have to wait until you can open it.

Why is this necessary? Not only do the seconds add up, but you can’t perform the second action until you know for sure the first action was even registered. It makes the interaction so unreliable. Not efficient. And slow.

This problem applies to pretty much everything in iPadOS. More problematic with tables in Numbers.
 

PilotTiny

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I'm sure the average Joe isn't going to notice anything you have just said.

Saying that, look how far we come since the original iPad Pro. It's still not perfect, but a few more years of refinement from both hardware and software and it might just be.

The magic keyboard is a great accessory, that really compliments the IPP, if a little bit pricey.
 

Sydde

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Have you tried the reduce motion setting in Accessibility? You can replace the slide-overs with fades, which seem to be slightly faster (and, quite frankly, better, because your target will be where you expect it to be.

Which fails to address some of the other iPadOS issues, like why are popups always fixed width, so that content is frequently cropped, when the A/M series processors have way enough power to make the width adaptable? This, for one, is an iOS vestige that really needs to be fixed.
 
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mtneer

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I hope that the kind of things you noticed go away with a slow convergence of the two OS paradigms.
 

symphony

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Have you tried the reduce motion setting in Accessibility? You can replace the slide-overs with fades, which seem to be slightly faster (and, quite frankly, better, because your target will be where you expect it to be.

Which fails to address some of the other iPadOS issues, like why are popups always fixed width, so that content is frequently cropped, when the A/M series processors have way enough power to make the width adaptable? This, for one, is an iOS vestige that really needs to be fixed.
Frankly, I like the animations. Only some needs to be sped up or have no animation at all.

The animations should also be allowed to be interactive with.

iOS and iPadOS already lets you interact with the Home Screen after you unlock the device. When the apps are still flying into the screen, you can tap at app before the app finishes landing on the Home Screen. Or you can swipe to another page or open a folder during the unlocking animation
 

trevpimp

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If you look at this way the M1 performance on iPadOS will always be different because of software capabilities it all comes down to how well applications run on the M1 so basically the iPad could perform the same if not better
 

ApfelKuchen

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What you've wished for can be considered a flaw in macOS, rather than a flaw in iPadOS/iOS, depending upon ones perspective.

Certainly, there are people capable of issuing a series of mouse clicks or screen taps in anticipation of the next expected action/input, but it's probably far more common for people to impatiently click-click-click/tap-tap-tap for a single action because of a system delay. Buffering/storing those taps rather than ignoring all but the first can cause all sorts of unexpected/unwanted actions.

Touchscreen interfaces essentially demand accidental-touch rejection. I recall Apple executives used to talk about that in interviews in the early days of iPhone and iPad - rejecting palm touches in particular. Making us wait patiently for the next screen to render before accepting a new touch input is part of ensuring that the average user won't have a poor experience. So while that may be "slower" than using a desktop computer, it can also save time by not having to undo accidental actions.

If one does the same series of actions so frequently that one can anticipate each and every click or tap, maybe the real speed solution is the use of automation tools like Shortcuts.
 
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UBS28

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That is false. For basic things like web browsing, the M1 iPad Pro is faster. There is a reviewer who did benchmarks of the M1 iPad Pro vs M1 MBP, which showed that the browser in iPad OS / iOS is faster than on MAC.

For stuff like video exporting, the M1 iPad Pro is just as fast as the M1 MacBook Pro.

Regarding to file management, well yeah, file management sucks on iPad. To me it looks like the iPad Pro is all about security (which is why the iPad Pro will never replace a laptop), while OS X is a less secure version giving users much more freedom.
 
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yabeweb

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Because you can’t interact with anything while there’s an animation. Sometimes there’s just an arbitrary pause before you can even interact with it.

Example #1: You’re deep inside a directory of folders in Files, you can’t spam the back button, because every second tap/click doesn’t register unlike a Mac. You gotta wait for the animation.

Example #2: You tap on a folder in Files to view its contents, but thru muscle memory you know the second folder you wanna dive into is in the same spot as the first folder that you just tapped/clicked on. However you can’t quickly interact with it until almost a second has passed, unlike a Mac. You have to wait until you can open it.

Why is this necessary? Not only do the seconds add up, but you can’t perform the second action until you know for sure the first action was even registered. It makes the interaction so unreliable. Not efficient. And slow.

This problem applies to pretty much everything in iPadOS. More problematic with tables in Numbers.
All I can say, right now, iPad issue is not speed....
 

symphony

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What you've wished for can be considered a flaw in macOS, rather than a flaw in iPadOS/iOS, depending upon ones perspective.

Certainly, there are people capable of issuing a series of mouse clicks or screen taps in anticipation of the next expected action/input, but it's probably far more common for people to impatiently click-click-click/tap-tap-tap for a single action because of a system delay. Buffering/storing those taps rather than ignoring all but the first can cause all sorts of unexpected/unwanted actions.

Touchscreen interfaces essentially demand accidental-touch rejection. I recall Apple executives used to talk about that in interviews in the early days of iPhone and iPad - rejecting palm touches in particular. Making us wait patiently for the next screen to render before accepting a new touch input is part of ensuring that the average user won't have a poor experience. So while that may be "slower" than using a desktop computer, it can also save time by not having to undo accidental actions.

If one does the same series of actions so frequently that one can anticipate each and every click or tap, maybe the real speed solution is the use of automation tools like Shortcuts.

It doesn’t save time, because you can instantly go back without having to wait for another animation.

Also these pauses don’t make sense with keyboard shortcuts using 2-3 keys simultaneously, people who use these combos definitely know what they’re doing. It also doesn’t make sense for cursors.

They are no issue for Mac, and everyone is accustomed to some sort of PC, so they know how this works by now. Let’s not kid ourselves here, this forcefully slows down the entire experience for pro users or people who just wants to be productive.

That is false. For basic things like web browsing, the M1 iPad Pro is faster. There is a reviewer who did benchmarks of the M1 iPad Pro vs M1 MBP, which showed that the browser in iPad OS / iOS is faster than on MAC.

For stuff like video exporting, the M1 iPad Pro is just as fast as the M1 MacBook Pro.

Regarding to file management, well yeah, file management sucks on iPad. To me it looks like the iPad Pro is all about security (which is why the iPad Pro will never replace a laptop), while OS X is a less secure version giving users much more freedom.

Safari on Mac feels much more faster than it is on iPad. I don’t have to wait for every animation to occur just to interact with it.

I can’t hit the back button as quickly as I want to. It’s not responsive because iPadOS does not allow you to do anything for one second or until an animation is finished.

I can’t highlight words in the YouTube search bar on iPad Safari, until I click on the text field. Unlike a Mac. This isn’t just strictly for YouTube as well.

I don’t think you read my post thoroughly or properly, because this isn’t about file management or “freedom” or “security”. It’s just about the animations and how you can not interact with anything immediately after pressing a button, for example.
 
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