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It's surprisingly hard to find an answer to this question. I know as per the spec sheets that the M1 MacBooks only support 1 external monitor in addition to the internal display. But what I can't really figure out is if I'll be able to use two monitors with the lid closed.

I imagine I'm not alone in having a work setup that involves a closed Macbook running through a Thunderbolt dock with 2 monitors attached. They're both 1080p. Has anyone personally tested this? All of Apple's language just says "1 external display in addition to the internal display," but does that mean (1) only 1 external monitor, period, or (2) 2 displays at a time, whether or not one of those is the internal screen?

I just find it hard to believe that the M1 could drive the internal 1600p display as well as an external 6k monitor, but couldn't drive dual 1080p displays.
 

wyrdness

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See the External Monitor Support thread. Brief summary: The bad news is it doesn't appear to support two external monitors with lid closed. The good new is that displaylink appears to work to support multiple monitors with a compatible hub.

 
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jacobrp

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Has anyone personally tested this?
I'm doing it right now.

I didn't notice this detail when I was ordering, and my normal setup is two 1080p monitors with USB-C to HDMI adaptors (one of them does AC and the other one does USB), which works with my 2017 15-inch MacBook Pro and the Pixelbook I use for my day job.

I plugged them both in and only one of the displays would turn on at a time. I originally thought I was doing something wrong.

I'm pretty bummed and I'm tempted to send it back, but I'm torn because I was just working on it without an external display for a few hours, and it's so nice. Everything is super speedy and the battery life is unbelievable.
 
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Ocnetgeek

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I'm doing it right now.

I didn't notice this detail when I was ordering, and my normal setup is two 1080p monitors with USB-C to HDMI adaptors (one of them does AC and the other one does USB), which works with my 2017 15-inch MacBook Pro and the Pixelbook I use for my day job.

I plugged them both in and only one of the displays would turn on at a time. I originally thought I was doing something wrong.

I'm pretty bummed and I'm tempted to send it back, but I'm torn because I was just working on it without an external display for a few hours, and it's so nice. Everything is super speedy and the battery life is unbelievable.
I am guessing we will see support for multiple monitors in newer systems next year but for now they are pretty incredible systems. I would like to be able to drive two monitors but that is not a big enough issue for me to send back this system. It is running so much better than the other Intel MacBooks that I have worked with
 
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Anonymous Freak

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Note: When using DisplayLink, do NOT use screen rotation. If you manage to get it turned on, then as soon as DisplayLink loads for the display, it will crash and instantly log you out, putting you back to your Mac's login screen. If you had "Launch app automatically" turned on, then logging back in will result in getting dumped immediately back to the login screen as long as the DisplayLink dock is still plugged in - without giving you time to either quit the DisplayLink Manager or go in to System Preferences to "undo" the rotation.

And if you plug the dock back in, it will do it again before giving you time to undo the rotation. I can't even fix it now by de-rotating. I simply can't use the DisplayLink connected display. :oops:

(Yes, just discovered this one the hard way - found my old DisplayLink dock, wanted to triple-display my new M1 Mini, but one of my displays is in vertical/portrait orientation.)
 
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Miao Ying

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Note: When using DisplayLink, do NOT use screen rotation. If you manage to get it turned on, then as soon as DisplayLink loads for the display, it will crash and instantly log you out, putting you back to your Mac's login screen. If you had "Launch app automatically" turned on, then logging back in will result in getting dumped immediately back to the login screen as long as the DisplayLink dock is still plugged in - without giving you time to either quit the DisplayLink Manager or go in to System Preferences to "undo" the rotation.

And if you plug the dock back in, it will do it again before giving you time to undo the rotation. I can't even fix it now by de-rotating. I simply can't use the DisplayLink connected display. :oops:

(Yes, just discovered this one the hard way - found my old DisplayLink dock, wanted to triple-display my new M1 Mini, but one of my displays is in vertical/portrait orientation.)
Has there been found yet a way to fix this? I had support for two external monitors when for no reason I suddenly had this exact problem you described. I never made any settling to change my monitors for "screen rotation" at all. I want to be able to use both of my monitors again and have tried all I could until I saw this post
 

Anonymous Freak

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Not that I've found. I have since gotten a new USB 3 DisplayLink adapter (I had been using an old USB 2 that topped out at 1920x1080) and connected it to a different display that isn't rotated.
 

vineykashyap141994

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Dec 20, 2020
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It's surprisingly hard to find an answer to this question. I know as per the spec sheets that the M1 MacBooks only support 1 external monitor in addition to the internal display. But what I can't really figure out is if I'll be able to use two monitors with the lid closed.

I imagine I'm not alone in having a work setup that involves a closed Macbook running through a Thunderbolt dock with 2 monitors attached. They're both 1080p. Has anyone personally tested this? All of Apple's language just says "1 external display in addition to the internal display," but does that mean (1) only 1 external monitor, period, or (2) 2 displays at a time, whether or not one of those is the internal screen?

I just find it hard to believe that the M1 could drive the internal 1600p display as well as an external 6k monitor, but couldn't drive dual 1080p displays.
This videos shows how to connect 3 monitors on macbook pro with M1 chip:


*it shows a workaround to use screens with laptop closed*
its working for me. :)
 

davss

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Sep 13, 2018
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Hi,

I've had MBP 16" with 4 USB-C ports which was a terrible machine for office work because of its thermal issues that caused very loud fans that were giving me headaches. It was sold and I got a MacBook Air M1 2020 instead. I was quite disappointed at first because Apple's MacBook Pro M1 had also only two USB-C ports and supports only one external display (ridiculous!) hence went for Air with no fans as Pro didn't make sense for simple office work.
I've been an almost very happy user since. I managed to connect 5 external monitors in total although yesterday swapped two for a 49 inch Dell:

Old external monitors setup on MacBook Air M1:
1 x Dell U2515H via USB HDMI (this is natively supported 1 display) - 2560x1440px
2 x Dell U2515H via StarTech DisplayLink USB32DPPRO (DisplayPort* version) adapters - 2560x1440px
2 x ASUS ZenScreen MB16ACE 15.6" Full HD IPS Portable Monitor 15.6" Display MB16ACE using DisplayLink* - 1080p
* - currently doesn't support screen rotation hence had to change all monitors to horizontal

The above was the maximum number monitors I could connect via two USB hubs (additional ones were not detected):
1 x Kensington UH7000C USB 3.0 7-Port Hub and Charger, and Sync Hub with Power Adapter
1 x UGREEN USB C Hub, 10 in 1 Multiport Adapter with 4K HDMI, VGA, 3.5mm Audio, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 3 Hub, SD/TF Card Slot, 100W PD Port, Compatible with Macbook Pro/Air 2020, Laptops, Tablets


Current setup:
3 x Dell U2515H via StarTech DisplayLink USB32DPPRO (DisplayPort version) adapters - 2560x1440px; these adapters are neatly connected to 3 x back USB 3.0 ports available in Dell 49 inch:
1 x Dell U4919DW

The Dell 49" monitor is connected using a single and included USB-C to USB-C cable that handles single native display at 5120 x 1440px as well as charges my MacBook (according to Dell support it only supports charging and display/data if a device draws below 90W, if more one has to use USB-C to DisplayPort cable which will take up one of only two available precious USB-C ports). So, with only two USB-C ports I managed to connect all 4 monitors via single USB-C port with 5120 + 7680 = 12800 px total horizontal and 2880 px vertical resolutions.

Behind is my UGREEN USB-C 10in1 hug connected to my second USB-C port on Air M1 that handles all other peripheral devices such as 2.5 inch HDD, memory cards reader, apple keyboard connected directly to Dell 49" 4th USB 3.0 port (mouse is using keyboard's built in USB 2.0 port), 512GB mini pen drive to 5th port (for TimeMachine frequent backups so I minimise loss of work should the SSD in Air suddenly die).

This works amazing with some minor glitches e.g. desktop icons tend to shift from one monitor to another etc. but nothing major so far.

I'll continue testing this setup and will report back if discover any issues. At present I can barely feel any heat at the top of keyboard with so many displays although am not doing any intensive tasks and purely office stuff. The same however was turning my MBP16 2019 into a starting super loud rocket so it's a hell of an improvement and can work in quiet or listen to some music and not bloo*y FANs!

Two improvements (I didn't realise about when was choosing this setup): there will be no touch ID in clamshell mode (hopefully Apple release a new external keyboard with TouchID that will solve this problem). I also wasn't able to figure out how to set my Air M1 to work in clamshell mode so I don't have the unused but fully dimmed screen sitting underneath all my other monitors. Lastly, all macOS notifications are currently going to the unused native screen and don't seem to find a way to redirect them to one of my monitors.

BTW - the new setup seem to have resolved a waking external native display from sleep problem I had before when was using my UGREEN's HDMI port. With USB-C it wakes up in a snap and always first before DisplayLink monitors (it was the opposite and about 25-30% my native external via HDMI wouldn't wake up unless restarted macOS or tried sleep/wake up cycles multiple times).

EDIT1: apart from Touch ID forgot about the built in camera so have to lift up the lid to use it. I'll start looking for an external camera and will consider getting a Mac Mini if no clamshell mode is impossible to achieve and it will support all my displays same way as Air M1 using single USB-C port without having to use mini's HDMI.

EDIT2: managed to get it working with the lid closed - am using Amphetamine app with turned off "Allow system sleep when display is closed". This option appears once a time to keep your Mac to running continuously is set. This also solves the problem of notifications always appearing on Air's native screen as my Dell 49" becomes my primary display with the lid closed (am still testing). I also need to monitor in terms of temperatures with the lid's closed although would be more worried with overheating Intel than M1 unless running some intensive tasks.
Also, when need to use the Apple's built in camera it's as easy as lifting the lid up. All displays revert back to my previous 5 monitors screen setup/displays alignment that includes M1's native screen. Closing it down goes back to 4 external screens setup without loosing displays settings so need to adjust anything in both modes! One thing still to try: Amphetamine-Enhancer allegedly "Adds a fail-safe for the closed-display mode feature found in Amphetamine 5.0+" - https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer.

ps. if you wonder - yeah that's a hair clipper on the desk ready to be used for the first time today hehe. An IT guy becoming a hairdresser!
 

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davss

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Sep 13, 2018
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Hi,

I've had MBP 16" with 4 USB-C ports which was a terrible machine for office work because of its thermal issues that caused very loud fans that were giving me headaches. It was sold and I got a MacBook Air M1 2020 instead. I was quite disappointed at first because Apple's MacBook Pro M1 had also only two USB-C ports and supports only one external display (ridiculous!) hence went for Air with no fans as Pro didn't make sense for simple office work.
I've been an almost very happy user since. I managed to connect 5 external monitors in total although yesterday swapped two for a 49 inch Dell:

Old external monitors setup on MacBook Air M1:
1 x Dell U2515H via USB HDMI (this is natively supported 1 display) - 2560x1440px
2 x Dell U2515H via StarTech DisplayLink USB32DPPRO (DisplayPort* version) adapters - 2560x1440px
2 x ASUS ZenScreen MB16ACE 15.6" Full HD IPS Portable Monitor 15.6" Display MB16ACE using DisplayLink* - 1080p
* - currently doesn't support screen rotation hence had to change all monitors to horizontal

The above was the maximum number monitors I could connect via two USB hubs (additional ones were not detected):
1 x Kensington UH7000C USB 3.0 7-Port Hub and Charger, and Sync Hub with Power Adapter
1 x UGREEN USB C Hub, 10 in 1 Multiport Adapter with 4K HDMI, VGA, 3.5mm Audio, Gigabit Ethernet, USB 3 Hub, SD/TF Card Slot, 100W PD Port, Compatible with Macbook Pro/Air 2020, Laptops, Tablets


Current setup:
3 x Dell U2515H via StarTech DisplayLink USB32DPPRO (DisplayPort version) adapters - 2560x1440px; these adapters are neatly connected to 3 x back USB 3.0 ports available in Dell 49 inch:
1 x Dell U4919DW

The Dell 49" monitor is connected using a single and included USB-C to USB-C cable that handles single native display at 5120 x 1440px as well as charges my MacBook (according to Dell support it only supports charging and display/data if a device draws below 90W, if more one has to use USB-C to DisplayPort cable which will take up one of only two available precious USB-C ports). So, with only two USB-C ports I managed to connect all 4 monitors via single USB-C port with 5120 + 7680 = 12800 px total horizontal and 2880 px vertical resolutions.

Behind is my UGREEN USB-C 10in1 hug connected to my second USB-C port on Air M1 that handles all other peripheral devices such as 2.5 inch HDD, memory cards reader, apple keyboard connected directly to Dell 49" 4th USB 3.0 port (mouse is using keyboard's built in USB 2.0 port), 512GB mini pen drive to 5th port (for TimeMachine frequent backups so I minimise loss of work should the SSD in Air suddenly die).

This works amazing with some minor glitches e.g. desktop icons tend to shift from one monitor to another etc. but nothing major so far.

I'll continue testing this setup and will report back if discover any issues. At present I can barely feel any heat at the top of keyboard with so many displays although am not doing any intensive tasks and purely office stuff. The same however was turning my MBP16 2019 into a starting super loud rocket so it's a hell of an improvement and can work in quiet or listen to some music and not bloo*y FANs!

Two improvements (I didn't realise about when was choosing this setup): there will be no touch ID in clamshell mode (hopefully Apple release a new external keyboard with TouchID that will solve this problem). I also wasn't able to figure out how to set my Air M1 to work in clamshell mode so I don't have the unused but fully dimmed screen sitting underneath all my other monitors. Lastly, all macOS notifications are currently going to the unused native screen and don't seem to find a way to redirect them to one of my monitors.

BTW - the new setup seem to have resolved a waking external native display from sleep problem I had before when was using my UGREEN's HDMI port. With USB-C it wakes up in a snap and always first before DisplayLink monitors (it was the opposite and about 25-30% my native external via HDMI wouldn't wake up unless restarted macOS or tried sleep/wake up cycles multiple times).

EDIT1: apart from Touch ID forgot about the built in camera so have to lift up the lid to use it. I'll start looking for an external camera and will consider getting a Mac Mini if no clamshell mode is impossible to achieve and it will support all my displays same way as Air M1 using single USB-C port without having to use mini's HDMI.

EDIT2: managed to get it working with the lid closed - am using Amphetamine app with turned off "Allow system sleep when display is closed". This option appears once a time to keep your Mac to running continuously is set. This also solves the problem of notifications always appearing on Air's native screen as my Dell 49" becomes my primary display with the lid closed (am still testing). I also need to monitor in terms of temperatures with the lid's closed although would be more worried with overheating Intel than M1 unless running some intensive tasks.
Also, when need to use the Apple's built in camera it's as easy as lifting the lid up. All displays revert back to my previous 5 monitors screen setup/displays alignment that includes M1's native screen. Closing it down goes back to 4 external screens setup without loosing displays settings so need to adjust anything in both modes! One thing still to try: Amphetamine-Enhancer allegedly "Adds a fail-safe for the closed-display mode feature found in Amphetamine 5.0+" - https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer.

ps. if you wonder - yeah that's a hair clipper on the desk ready to be used for the first time today hehe. An IT guy becoming a hairdresser!
Should read: Closing it down goes back to 4 external screens setup without loosing displays settings so NO need to adjust anything in both modes!

The setup is still working nicely. Some icons might move from one screen to another when entering/exiting clamshell mode but it doesn't happen very often and about 95% am working in clamshell. I do not put my mac into sleep and instead am locking the screen then ESC to put all monitors into energy saving sleep mode. When hit any key they all wake up 100% every time.
 

mrburney

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Oct 21, 2008
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Hi all, I just upgraded from a 2016 13" MBP with Touch Bar to a new M1 13" MBP (16GB RAM / 1TB SSD). I had used the old laptop in clamshell mode, hooked up to two external monitors.

The laptop hooks up over Thunderbolt to a CalDigit TS3 Plus that itself is hooked up to an LG VK228 (via an HDMI to USB-C cable) and an LG VE228 (via an HDMI to DisplayPort cable).

I've come to learn that the CalDigit TS3 Plus is not compatible with DisplayLink and that if I want to drive two external monitors, I will need to install DisplayLink Manager and to purchase a DisplayLink compatible dock.

Can someone recommend a DisplayLink compatible dock for me to purchase? My preference would be for something I could buy from either BestBuy or MicroCenter and pick up today. My whole workflow feels disrupted and I need to get things back to normal with two screens side-by-side as quickly as possible.

Thanks!
 

xraydoc

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Hi all, I just upgraded from a 2016 13" MBP with Touch Bar to a new M1 13" MBP (16GB RAM / 1TB SSD). I had used the old laptop in clamshell mode, hooked up to two external monitors.

The laptop hooks up over Thunderbolt to a CalDigit TS3 Plus that itself is hooked up to an LG VK228 (via an HDMI to USB-C cable) and an LG VE228 (via an HDMI to DisplayPort cable).

I've come to learn that the CalDigit TS3 Plus is not compatible with DisplayLink and that if I want to drive two external monitors, I will need to install DisplayLink Manager and to purchase a DisplayLink compatible dock.

Can someone recommend a DisplayLink compatible dock for me to purchase? My preference would be for something I could buy from either BestBuy or MicroCenter and pick up today. My whole workflow feels disrupted and I need to get things back to normal with two screens side-by-side as quickly as possible.

Thanks!
You don't need to buy a whole new dock. Just a single DisplayLink adapter and plug it into the dock you have.
 

mrburney

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Oct 21, 2008
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You don't need to buy a whole new dock. Just a single DisplayLink adapter and plug it into the dock you have.
Is there a specific DisplayLink adapter you recommend? And where does that adapter fit into my overall display USB.Thunderbolt topology?
 

xraydoc

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Is there a specific DisplayLink adapter you recommend? And where does that adapter fit into my overall display USB.Thunderbolt topology?
I have no personal experience with them, but they simply plug in to one of your USB 3.0 ports.
 

Yebubbleman

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See the External Monitor Support thread. Brief summary: The bad news is it doesn't appear to support two external monitors with lid closed. The good new is that displaylink appears to work to support multiple monitors with a compatible hub.

The one important thing to always bear in mind when it comes to DisplayLink is that the GPU is not driving the displays, nor is there any 3D acceleration. This is fine for simple websites, Excel, Outlook/Mail, Word, or things of similar visual demand, but horrible for anything beyond that.
 

colemac

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Jan 8, 2012
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This videos shows how to connect 3 monitors on macbook pro with M1 chip:


*it shows a workaround to use screens with laptop closed*
its working for me. :)
I just got a new MacBook Air M1 and am looking for the best functioning USB C or Thunderbolt hub with dual hdmi and usb 2.0 and usb 3.0. I also want to close lid like I do on my MacBook Air i5 and then have the dual screens that way.

Would you have some suggestions for hubs and could provide me links? There are numerous ones but want to get the right one.

Thanks for your help,
 

mrburney

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Oct 21, 2008
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I don't know that my solution is technically the most efficient, but it works for me:

I have my M1 MBP connected to a CalDigit TS3 Plus (https://www.caldigit.com/ts3-plus/)

From the back of the CalDigit dock, I have one monitor connected via a USB-C (Thunderbolt) to HDMI cable. I then have the other monitor connected via a StarTech USB 3.0 to HDMI Adapter (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OD37KHG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and an HDMI cable.

I'm told this isn't officially supported by CalDigit, but it works fin 95% of the time. Sometimes when the computer wakes up when plugged into the dock it won't recognize one of the monitors, but unplugging from the dock and re-plugging it always fixes it right away.
 
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