M1 MacBook hanging/spinning a lot since upgrade to 12.3

[jblucher]

Maybe a coinsidence, but after upgrading to 12.3, my M1 MacBook Pro hangs (spinner mouse pointer), all the time. It is nearly unusable. I'm still new to Macs so I don't quite know how to troubleshoot as I would in Windows. Activity Monitor does seem to show anything interesting. Even when it is spinning I don't see any CPU spikes or memory increases. I looked in Console and saw something called Spin Reports. This seemed promising, but there isn't any there. I probably just don't know how to use it.

1) Has anyone else experienced this?
2) Any common troubleshooting steps I can take?

 

[thenahon]

Im on an M1 iMac (wishing I had waited for the Mac Studio!). Im noticing a lot of lag that wasn't there before the update to 12.3. I wiped my iMac and then restored from 12.2ish before the upgrade to 12.3

 

[Datsyuk]

Experiencing similar issues here as well since update. Wifi dropping, preference panel freezing, restart won't work...so hard reboot is required...and then all is fine again for a bit.

 

[Ron21]

Same issues here, since 12.3, issues start appearing with Safari (pages/images stop loading), Music app (freezes), etc.. after rebooting all is fine but same issues reappear after some time.

Kind of feels like something network related, maybe some bug, haven't been able to figure out any solution yet.

 

[crp5591]

Same exact thing happening to two machines 13" and 15" mid 2015 MacBook Pros. Apps hang with spinning beachball. Can quit some after difficulty, but eventually not even force quitting helps as the Force Quit window itself will hang. Only hard reset / restart gets me out of it and to a usable desktop again. Has happened a handful of times so far after updating to 12.3. Zero issues prior to that time.

 

[jblucher]

Any chance everyone is using Microsoft Office or have it running in the background (Outlook, Teams, etc.)? I'm trying to see if it only happens when I'm working and have Office open.

 

[Ron21]

Any chance everyone is using Microsoft Office or have it running in the background (Outlook, Teams, etc.)? I'm trying to see if it only happens when I'm working and have Office open.

Not using any of that here, it’s something else and only started happening after installing 12.3 on my M1 Pro.

 

[WebHead]

Experiencing similar issues here as well since update. Wifi dropping, preference panel freezing, restart won't work...so hard reboot is required...and then all is fine again for a bit.

Happening to me too on 12.2.1 on an i9 iMac.

Thought I'd pinned it down to a Chrome and/or Bluetooth issue but the jury is still out.

 

[Nismo73]

On a M1 Air, noticed yesterday when trying to reload this site, sometimes youtube that it’ll want to start but but just hangs. (But in other tabs other sites would reload)
Trying to reload on ipad pro at the same time it didn‘t.

 

[stratkey]

Maybe a coinsidence, but after upgrading to 12.3, my M1 MacBook Pro hangs (spinner mouse pointer), all the time. It is nearly unusable. I'm still new to Macs so I don't quite know how to troubleshoot as I would in Windows. Activity Monitor does seem to show anything interesting. Even when it is spinning I don't see any CPU spikes or memory increases. I looked in Console and saw something called Spin Reports. This seemed promising, but there isn't any there. I probably just don't know how to use it.

1) Has anyone else experienced this?
2) Any common troubleshooting steps I can take?

12.3 bricked both my machines, my M1 MBP won't even load it, and it's super buggy on the machine I managed to get it loaded onto. What a terrible iteration of this software. I've never had an iterative upgrade destroy so much stuff. I've spent three days trying to reclaim files and reload the OS. MAJOR FAIL

 

[terryreid62]

My 16" MBP is a pain in the ass, I have to restart, stop copying and start over, quit Safari due to pages not loading and the dreaded spinning wheel way to often. 64GB ram 8TB SSD so its not that. Not running any goofy 3rd party other than Topaz Labs denoise and sharpen. We need a fix asap this sucks I use this for my businesses and everything I do.

 

[sturg]

Maybe try running "Maintenance" after the update. Mine was also doing some of these same things after the update, but this fixed it.

 

[sturg]

Here is a screenshot.

 

[jblucher]

Thanks. I'll take a look and give it a try.

 

[WebHead]

I may have narrowed my issues down to Mega links in Chrome and, to a lesser extent, Safari. So probably a separate issue to others.

 

[mmac_m3a]

After upgrade to 12.3 my M1 Macbook Air exhibits similar symptoms as discussed in this thread: applications unresponsive and eventually inability to even restart the computer (requiring hard reboot via power button). I does not seem to be directly caused by networking, because the machine responds to pings, Universal Control works (which I believe uses AWDL), SSH connection to the box connects, but the remote shell is never started. While in this state, already running applications not requiring start of additional processes/threads (or possibly memory allocations) seem to continue working (for example, iStats menubar widgets), however the system is not able to start any new process. The problem is occurring relatively infrequently (about every 3 days). It just occurred when the machine was sleeping :-(.
I also have M1 MacBook Pro which I've also upgraded to 12.3 and I'm not seeing the problem there (at least not yet). The are occassional hiccups and even beachballs that never happened before 12.3 upgrade, but I've not seen a complete lock-up like on the Air. The only difference between those 2 machines (other than the hardware) is that the Air is connected to Apple Thunderbolt display (using Apple USB-C/Thundebolt2 adapter) while the Pro is connected to OWC Thunderbolt docking station and Samsung monitor (via DisplayPort on the docking station). Both Macbooks are connected to the same Gigabit Ethernet switch and also to the same Wifi Aiport base station.

 

[Apple_Robert]

No problems here on my M1 MBA.

 

[mmac_m3a]

My MacBook Air suffering from the problem just experienced kernel panic:

panic(cpu 2 caller 0xfffffe00284774fc): userspace watchdog timeout: no successful checkins from logd in 120 seconds
service returned not alive with context : unresponsive dispatch queue(s): com.apple.firehose.io-wl
service: logd, total successful checkins since load (83030 seconds ago): 8292, last successful checkin: 120 seconds ago
service: WindowServer, total successful checkins since load (83000 seconds ago): 8295, last successful checkin: 50 seconds ago
service: opendirectoryd, total successful checkins since load (83030 seconds ago): 8304, last successful checkin: 0 seconds ago

Debugger message: panic
Memory ID: 0x6
OS release type: User
OS version: 21E230
Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 21 20:36:53 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.101.4~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101
Fileset Kernelcache UUID: 81A1C0F4FCC6296CCDD9DF58958442EE
Kernel UUID: F027EB2E-26A7-3A4E-87FA-6A745379530C
iBoot version: iBoot-7459.101.2
secure boot?: YES
Paniclog version: 13
KernelCache slide: 0x00000000201b8000
KernelCache base:  0xfffffe00271bc000
Kernel slide:      0x0000000020958000
Kernel text base:  0xfffffe002795c000
Kernel text exec slide: 0x0000000020a40000
Kernel text exec base:  0xfffffe0027a44000
mach_absolute_time: 0x1d027db9dd6
Epoch Time:        sec       usec
  Boot    : 0x623bbb31 0x00049f06
  Sleep   : 0x00000000 0x00000000
  Wake    : 0x00000000 0x00000000
  Calendar: 0x623cff9e 0x000ee6c0

Zone info:
  Foreign : 0xfffffe002f528000 - 0xfffffe002f538000
  Native  : 0xfffffe10003ac000 - 0xfffffe30003ac000
  Readonly: 0xfffffe14cd078000 - 0xfffffe1666a10000
  Metadata: 0xfffffe7fa1944000 - 0xfffffe7fad888000
  Bitmaps : 0xfffffe7fad888000 - 0xfffffe7fb3364000

CORE 0 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c0
CORE 1 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c0
CORE 2 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bd9bf4
CORE 3 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c0
CORE 4 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c4
CORE 5 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c4
CORE 6 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c4
CORE 7 recently retired instr at 0xfffffe0027bdb1c4
CORE 0 PVH locks held: None
CORE 1 PVH locks held: None
CORE 2 PVH locks held: None
CORE 3 PVH locks held: None
CORE 4 PVH locks held: None
CORE 5 PVH locks held: None
CORE 6 PVH locks held: None
CORE 7 PVH locks held: None
CORE 0: PC=0x00000001b5adec38, LR=0x00000001b5ade580, FP=0x000000016b6e8350
CORE 1: PC=0xfffffe0027a97248, LR=0xfffffe0027a97248, FP=0xfffffe6fed4b3d50
CORE 2 is the one that panicked. Check the full backtrace for details.
CORE 3: PC=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, LR=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, FP=0xfffffe600c65bf00
CORE 4: PC=0xfffffe0027ad32e8, LR=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, FP=0xfffffe6fed393f00
CORE 5: PC=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, LR=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, FP=0xfffffe6fed543f00
CORE 6: PC=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, LR=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, FP=0xfffffe6fed403f00
CORE 7: PC=0xfffffe0027ad32e8, LR=0xfffffe0027ad32e4, FP=0xfffffe6fe2e4bf00
Compressor Info: 2% of compressed pages limit (OK) and 2% of segments limit (OK) with 0 swapfiles and OK swap space
Total cpu_usage: 66893352
Thread task pri cpu_usage
0xfffffe1b346bd878 watchdogd 97 0
0xfffffe1b34edaa08 watchdogd 31 0
0xfffffe1b35120140 mdsync 4 5045090
0xfffffe1b33f6f0f0 kernel_task 0 4016712
0xfffffe1b338521e0 kernel_task 0 4303603

Panicked task 0xfffffe24ccf900b0: 273 pages, 4 threads: pid 325: watchdogd
Panicked thread: 0xfffffe1b346bd878, backtrace: 0xfffffe6fecfc3170, tid: 3305
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a9d53c  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc31e0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a9d204  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3250
          lr: 0xfffffe0027be1570  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3270
          lr: 0xfffffe0027bd3bdc  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc32e0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027bd1618  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc33a0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a4b7f8  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc33b0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a9ce8c  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3750
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a9ce8c  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc37c0
          lr: 0xfffffe00282c5fcc  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc37e0
          lr: 0xfffffe00284774fc  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3800
          lr: 0xfffffe0028476cc0  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3820
          lr: 0xfffffe00284757cc  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3940
          lr: 0xfffffe00282255d4  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3ad0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027ba1760  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3bf0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027aa3994  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3c90
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a74fe0  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3cf0
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a9058c  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3d80
          lr: 0xfffffe0027bc6b90  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3e50
          lr: 0xfffffe0027bd1a48  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3f10
          lr: 0xfffffe0027a4b7f8  fp: 0xfffffe6fecfc3f20
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.driver.AppleARMWatchdogTimer(1.0)[52B3363C-B438-3F9F-8632-6788A99653F7]@0xfffffe0028473140->0xfffffe002847796b
            dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleARMPlatform(1.0.2)[C17D52A2-9028-37D3-9011-E084C00F96C9]@0xfffffe0028428af0->0xfffffe0028473137

 

[KevinB]

Same problems on my MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) M1... Worked great before 12.3 update. Now, the music app keeps hanging and other laggy experiences.

 

[darthaddie]

I am facing similar issues on my Mac studio. Random freezes, the airdrop window doesn’t respond sometimes, many apps just randomly crash. Mainly Davinci. Safari stops loading websites. This is on a fresh install with just 5 apps installed.

 

[jblucher]

This is so painful. I've tried so many things to try to find the issue. My latest theory is that it is Microsoft Defender. My system was hanging, so I stopped it's real-time scan and my system became responsive again. I've uninstalled it now, so I'll see if that does the trick. I don't think I'll be able to access my work resources anymore though...

I did see a release note from Microsoft where they added support for Mac OS 12.3 in a specific version. In that note they said that you have to update Defender before updating your OS. I'm not sure if my was auto updated, but I certainly didn't do it manually.

 

[WebHead]

I may have narrowed my issues down to Mega links in Chrome and, to a lesser extent, Safari. So probably a separate issue to others.

OK now I think it's just Chrome, and any large (several hundred MB) download, not just Mega. Has been happening the past couple of versions.

 

[jblucher]

Well... I've gone 24 hours without a hang after removing Microsoft Defender. I'm pretty confident that was my issue. Seems like a number of different causes that I'm seeing through this thread. I'd love to know if anyone else has Microsoft Defender with 12.3 and whether or not they're having any issues.

 

[foxs]

Got the exact same problem + Kernel Panics (restarted) when mac in sleep and opening the lid after a while. Anyone found the problem for this?

 

[WebHead]

As stated in another thread, my KPs turned out to be due to a failing HD. I only stumbled on to that due to some third-party disk maintenance utilities, though I had had some trouble with corrupted files. Had the HD replaced under warranty and now all is well.

Good luck to everyone else!