M1 Max Production Problems?

[ikramerica]

Just wondering if there is any information on M1 Max chip production issues.

In general, no Max models are left available for in store pickup at most Apple stores. Certain Pro models are available.

Ordering a Max on Apple’s website pushes build out to February, while custom M1 Pros ship in a few weeks.

Retailers like Expercom show the Max as “unavailable.” You can’t buy the Max. Can’t put it into a shopping cart. Only the Pro models can be configured with a 3-6 week ship date.

 

[Donsell]

I have no information, but Expercom for me says 3-6 weeks and I can add it to the cart no matter which model of the Max or upgrades I choose.

I just doubt Expercom can deliver it in 3-6 weeks and we're at least 8 weeks out from Apple.

 

[bobcomer]

There are production problem with anything with computer chips in it -- the ongoing consolidation of the chipmaking industry is killing availability for everyone.

 

[jz0309]

there I a worldwide and industry crossing supply chain "crisis" and Apple is impacted as everyone else, and the shortage is not with the SOCs, its with other chips used

 

[UBS28]

There is a global crisis in case you haven't noticed it.

 

[jdb8167]

Just wondering if there is any information on M1 Max chip production issues.

In general, no Max models are left available for in store pickup at most Apple stores. Certain Pro models are available.

Ordering a Max on Apple’s website pushes build out to February, while custom M1 Pros ship in a few weeks.

Retailers like Expercom show the Max as “unavailable.” You can’t buy the Max. Can’t put it into a shopping cart. Only the Pro models can be configured with a 3-6 week ship date.

I still see a 14” M1 Max 32 Core GPU with 32 GB as Jan 21. So 4 weeks.

 

[ikramerica]

Good grief people.

“Global supply chain issues” don’t account for M1 Max being in short supply while the Pro, made in the same fab, put into the same machine with the same logic board and memory and keyboard and screen is not.

 

[cmaier]

Good grief people.

“Global supply chain issues” don’t account for M1 Max being in short supply while the Pro, made in the same fab, put into the same machine with the same logic board and memory and keyboard and screen is not.

Yes it does. Because of supply chain issues, Apple may choose to allocate a larger percentage of the production to the chips that sell better (Pros) than chips that have less demand.

(Edit: not to mention that Max takes much more die area than pro. So for every max they decide to make, that’s two pros they cannot make)

 

[winterny]

Ultimately, this is going to be speculation no matter what. The M1 MAX chips are harder to make, and when they fail, they can become M1 Pro by chopping off the bottom half -- so perhaps apple is having yield problems ... Or perhaps the M1 MAX is just way more popular ... Or perhaps apple is just making the M1 Pro's more aggressively since they are easier to produce and allow them to sell more products in a time of a chip shortage.

We won't know unless apple chooses to say something, and they probably won't.

 

[Acidsplat]

Ultimately, this is going to be speculation no matter what. The M1 MAX chips are harder to make, and when they fail, they can become M1 Pro by chopping off the bottom half -- so perhaps apple is having yield problems ... Or perhaps the M1 MAX is just way more popular ... Or perhaps apple is just making the M1 Pro's more aggressively since they are easier to produce and allow them to sell more products in a time of a chip shortage.

We won't know unless apple chooses to say something, and they probably won't.

That's definitely what's going on; more core counts = higher likelihood of one/some of the cores failing from yield, so they disable the problematic cores and rebrand it at a lower tier so they can still sell it.

 

[UBS28]

Good grief people.

“Global supply chain issues” don’t account for M1 Max being in short supply while the Pro, made in the same fab, put into the same machine with the same logic board and memory and keyboard and screen is not.

Try buying a Playstation 5 which was released a year ago. They are still selling for way above the normal price because Sony is struggling to get enough PS5 out even 1 year after launch.

Apple cannot do magic.

Expecting Apple to deliver all machines like how they normally do is crazy talk.

 

[Bug-Creator]

and when they fail, they can become M1 Pro by chopping off the bottom half

Nope nope and nope again. Thats just not how it is down (and has been discussed at length elsewhere already).

I'd rather ask how much lead time between Apple ordering x Pro and y Max till the MB can be delivered to the costumer. Might just well be that Apple guessed wrong and the increased Max orders just haven' t worked themselves through the system (and cleared the backlog).

 

[MayaUser]

In general, no Max models are left available for in store pickup at most Apple stores

not to mention as default only 1 model 16" has M1 max...in general M1 max is BTO option
So, very few stores had the M1 max in stores for pickup

 

[SirKeldon]

I can see dates pushing on 32GPU vs 24GPU (at least for Apple Store Online @ Spain) but not too much, if I order today:

- M1 Max 32 GPU 32GB goes to 20 Jan/27 Jan
- M1 Max 24 GPU 32GB goes to 3 Feb/10 Feb

The ones for M1 Max 32 GPU appears with M1 Pro, and TBH, the estimated times are roughly equal when I ordered mine on 16th November, initial Apple dates were 10 Dec - 16 Dec (arrived on 2 Dec) ... so, IMHO, situation is pretty much the same, accentuated maybe due to Christmas campaign.

On the other hand, as rumors indicate, Mac Mini w/M1 Pro and M1 Max should be here soon within 3-4 months, given the chip shortage, could Apple themselves push some MBP dates, even more than now, and reserve part of that stock for those future machines?

edit: spelling

 

[Chevysales]

Good grief people.

“Global supply chain issues” don’t account for M1 Max being in short supply while the Pro, made in the same fab, put into the same machine with the same logic board and memory and keyboard and screen is not.

At 32gb of ram its 4 weeks out. Up it to 64 and it’s twice that as I just ordered Max and it was a Jan. 21 on 32gbs and Feb 8-20th with the 64gb I choose.

Which shows a ram change as being the issue. Didn’t matter on ssd as 1tb or the 2tb I choose were same dates.

And maybe it’s being chosen more than the pro and demand along with shortage is also to blame.

Above is from Apple Education Store where I bought from and was same in retail side of Apple store too.