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mario-64

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.
 
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sparksd

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You can’t compare M4 cores to M1 cores

At points of use where M1 and M4 are closest, the new iPad will be at least 2x your current iPad in speed

At points of use where M1 and M4 are more differentiated, M4 might even be 3-4X+ faster than your M1

The real question is whether those higher specs translate into improved performance for the applications that a give user runs and is that improvement significant enough to warrant a significant outlay of $. For the OP and apps he listed, I don't think that runtime performance will change significantly.
 

TheRealAlex

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.
I think the Upgrade is MASSIVE, because Apple could have easily just Upgraded to 1,000nits Tamdem OLED alone and that would have been huge. But they went above and beyond and threw in a new M4 CPU.

I personally went the 1TB option which includes 4 Performance Cores. And 16GB of RAM. So it’s a 3 year investment.

Even the 11” base 256GB model at $999 is a steal with my trade in at $470 of a 128GB base M2 11”

the base M4 with 9 Cores still outclasses even the M2. So less cores but better.

without ignoring the amazing new Upgrades.
 

aakshey

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The real question is whether those higher specs translate into improved performance for the applications that a give user runs and is that improvement significant enough to warrant a significant outlay of $. For the OP and apps he listed, I don't think that runtime performance will change significantly.
He has to decide that
Honestly, OLED is enough for me
The weight and thinness are extremely good to have though not essential
 

aakshey

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I think the Upgrade is MASSIVE, because Apple could have easily just Upgraded to 1,000nits Tamdem OLED alone and that would have been huge. But they went above and beyond and threw in a new M4 CPU.

I personally went the 1TB option which includes 4 Performance Cores. And 16GB of RAM. So it’s a 3 year investment.

Even the 11” base 256GB model at $999 is a steal with my trade in at $470 of a 128GB base M2 11”

the base M4 with 9 Cores still outclasses even the M2. So less cores but better.

without ignoring the amazing new Upgrades.
I’ve bought this one
If they release another iPad Pro in 1.5 years, I’ll opt for that as well
 
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To answer the OP

On an iPad, “Not really, no”

Software remains the issue for iPads, not hardware power

Chipset performance does matter when you’re playing what is probably the most demanding game available for iOS at the moment. Although for now, Capcom appears to be limiting performance of RE4 for better consistency. It would be nice if they’d allow 60-120 FPS like Genshin.


Mind, comparing M1 iPad Air (8GB RAM) and M1 iPad Pro (16GB RAM), it’s interesting to see that the Air was getting more stutters than the Pro. Gamers already know VRAM is pretty important. It would be interesting to see how that plays out given the shared memory architecture on the M-series chipsets.
 

aevan

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.

The 9-core M4 iPad Pro will be quite faster in single-core performance - which is what you’ll notice most - and a lot faster in gpu - which you’ll also notice. And it will a bit faster in multi-core even with one less performance core (remember that iPads also use efficiency cores in multi-core workloads, and these cores are *not slow*. And M4 has two more of those). So yes, it will be quite a bit faster overall and a big jump.

With that said, M1 Pro is super fast and you won’t really *feel* a big difference in day to day work. You should upgrade for the new screen, new design, new Pencil. Performance alone shouldn’t be a major reason to upgrade from the excellent M1.
 

WilliamG

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The screen is the real reason to upgrade. M1 to M4 should be more noticeable than M1 to M2 (which I couldn’t really notice much). I had the 12.9” miniLED 120hz M1 and M2 and the display was, - in terms of pixel performance, absolutely awful. Both current MacBook Pro and iPad 120hz miniLED screens have some of the worst pixel response times on the market. Scrolling up and down web pages etc on an OLED iPhone at 120hz is a joy. You can read every word as you scroll. On the MBP or iPad? Horrific. It almost negates the 120hz function entirely it’s so bad. Basically, you get a smooth-scrolling blurry mess. 🤣
 
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DeepSix

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I couldnt care less about M4, Apple could put M100 in it and I still wouldnt care. The screen and the improved battery life would be the reasons to upgrade.
 
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klasma

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.
Both single-core and multi-core have significantly improved performance over the M1, 50% or more it seems, despite one less performance core. I’d expect you’d see some performance increase in practice.
 

mrpolobrown

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Hi all,

Great community. OK, my question is this - I have a m1 mac air with 16gb ram 1tb HD and I am looking at the m4 ipad pro 11 inch 8gb ram, 256gb. Is it worth the m4 ipad purchase for Djay Pro? What about Logic for Ipad (though I think this is inferior to Logic on mac.)

For those two apps and only those two apps alone - is it worth the purchase of the new Ipad Pro, or not really. Will I notice a difference in Djay Pro on M4 Ipad pro versus my m1 Mac air? I use stems alot!

Thank you all!

Regards....
 

WilliamG

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Hi all,

Great community. OK, my question is this - I have a m1 mac air with 16gb ram 1tb HD and I am looking at the m4 ipad pro 11 inch 8gb ram, 256gb. Is it worth the m4 ipad purchase for Djay Pro? What about Logic for Ipad (though I think this is inferior to Logic on mac.)

For those two apps and only those two apps alone - is it worth the purchase of the new Ipad Pro, or not really. Will I notice a difference in Djay Pro on M4 Ipad pro versus my m1 Mac air? I use stems alot!

Thank you all!

Regards....
The iPad and MacBook Air aren’t really comparable. I’d stick with a MacBook if I were you. As much as I love my new iPad, working on it is so hamstrung by iPadOS.
 

Ludatyk

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Hi all,

Great community. OK, my question is this - I have a m1 mac air with 16gb ram 1tb HD and I am looking at the m4 ipad pro 11 inch 8gb ram, 256gb. Is it worth the m4 ipad purchase for Djay Pro? What about Logic for Ipad (though I think this is inferior to Logic on mac.)

For those two apps and only those two apps alone - is it worth the purchase of the new Ipad Pro, or not really. Will I notice a difference in Djay Pro on M4 Ipad pro versus my m1 Mac air? I use stems alot!

Thank you all!

Regards....
Came across this video below….


And from this video… they recommend going with the iPad version if you don’t have the Djay controller, but if you already have the controller it’s best to stay with the MBA.
 
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iPadified

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.
Are you irritated by the M1 experience? If not - wait, if you are - buy an M4. Personally, I buy new when I get irritated by lagging and crashing but these are entirely subjective measures that may differ between persons. Not sure if M3/M4 ray tracing HW will improve the visuals in for instance Resident Evil which is hard to assess without testing. Anyone knows?
 

thadoggfather

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The screen is the real reason to upgrade. M1 to M4 should be more noticeable than M1 to M2 (which I couldn’t really notice much). I had the 12.9” miniLED 120hz M1 and M2 and the display was, - in terms of pixel performance, absolutely awful. Both current MacBook Pro and iPad 120hz miniLED screens have some of the worst pixel response times on the market. Scrolling up and down web pages etc on an OLED iPhone at 120hz is a joy. You can read every word as you scroll. On the MBP or iPad? Horrific. It almost negates the 120hz function entirely it’s so bad. Basically, you get a smooth-scrolling blurry mess. 🤣

is this true of regular led iPad Pro m1 / m2 11” promotion too or only mini led
 

sonicrobby

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I currently have a 11” M1 IPad Pro 256GB and had planned on upgrading to the new one for OLED and better performance. After reviewing the spec sheet, however, I see that the M4 model would actually have one less CPU performance core than I currently have. Granted, it does have more GPU cores and I do play Apple Arcade & games such as Resident Evil, Hades, etc. I‘m just wondering if I’ll actually see any/much performance increase. I‘m not sure if the better screen alone warrants a 1k purchase for me. Thanks.
Is your current iPad slow or underperforming your expectations?
 

leebroath

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I finally upgraded from my M1 iPad Pro (3rd Gen) 2TB wifi/cellular, and purchased a brand new 1TB M4 wifi/cellular.

Managed to sell my M1 last week for £850 which included a Apple Pencil and Logitech keyboard case

The OLED screen on the new pro looks amazing, it's just sheer brilliant, which is also great for watching films.

Blacks are just black now, the overall screen has just vastly improved, for my eyes anyway 🤓
 
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fel10

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Im on the fence right now. I have a m1 IPad Pro. One things that always bothered me was the screen blooming which the OLED seems to have resolved the issue. The games I play on my ipad is mostly streamed from my PS5 or XBOX so the extra power from the M4 wont make much of difference for me. It just sucks I have to get a new apple pencil and Magic Keyboard if I get the new M4 iPad.
 
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