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EugW

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Take this as you will.


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Kazgarth

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Judging by the minor Multi-core score increase, those 2 extra cores are probably small efficiency cores.

Should provide minor boost to battery life, as it can offload more work to the 4 efficiency cores, just like the regular M1/M2 (compared to only 2 cores in M1 Max).
 
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EugW

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BTW, the scores posted here are a little faster than the scores posted earlier by MacRumors.
 

EugW

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Judging by the minor Multi-core score increase, those 2 extra cores are probably small efficiency cores.

Should provide minor boost to battery life, as it can offload more work to the 4 efficiency cores, just like the regular M1/M2 (compared to only 2 cores in M1 Max).
I agree, if those scores are legit, they suggest 8+4, not 10+2.
 

leman

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Looks like a release is imminent? Probably even tomorrow?

Regarding the scores themselves… I very much hoped we’d see a split between consumer and prosumer hardware generations, but these are obviously same old A15 cores. Disappointing, but sufficient to keep a reasonable lead over x86 laptops in 2023.
 
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EugW

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Looks like a release is imminent? Probably even tomorrow?

Regarding the scores themselves… I very much hoped we’d see a split between consumer and prosumer hardware generations, but these are obviously same old A15 cores. Disappointing, but sufficient to keep a reasonable lead over x86 laptops in 2023.
Apple implied next year so this leak would seem early in that context.
 

PauloSera

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Looks like a release is imminent? Probably even tomorrow?

Regarding the scores themselves… I very much hoped we’d see a split between consumer and prosumer hardware generations, but these are obviously same old A15 cores. Disappointing, but sufficient to keep a reasonable lead over x86 laptops in 2023.
It seems 3nm Apple Silicon is further away than some people hoped. Otherwise I doubt Apple would have bothered with an M2 Pro/M2 Max.

But these are still pretty impressive gains considering this is being done with a very long in the tooth 5nm process. To still be squeezing out gains at this point is quite a feat. 7% increase in single core performance and 18% increase in multi-core performance is nothing to sneeze at.
 
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NT1440

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It seems 3nm Apple Silicon is further away than some people hoped. Otherwise I doubt Apple would have bothered with an M2 Pro/M2 Max.

But these are still pretty impressive gains considering this is being done with a very long in the tooth 5nm process. To still be squeezing out gains at this point is quite a feat. 7% increase in single core performance and 18% increase in multi-core performance is nothing to sneeze at.
That’s not going to make this forum any less insufferable with claims of Apple hitting a wall in their Silicon performance…off of two data points.
 

PauloSera

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That’s not going to make this forum any less insufferable with claims of Apple hitting a wall in their Silicon performance…off of two data points.
There is no logic to any such claims. There are always real world limitations on performance, and right now it is the 5nm process. In use for 3 straight years, and used to fabricate every M1 and M2 series chip. If anything, Apple should be hitting a wall and isn't...still managing to get performance increases out of 5nm for the third year in a row. Actually going on 4 years assuming these chips come to market across 2023.

The next big jump will happen with 3nm in 2024.
 

Macintosh IIcx

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Very meh compared to the M1 Max (that I have), but not surprising. Looking more forward to what the M3 Max will be, unless Apple makes a special M2 SKU for the Mac Pro which I very much doubt.

The M2 Max is very much a laptop-first SKU instead of a desktop performance-first SKU.
 
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