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waloshin

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Has anyone tested the M1 series computers with legacy 480i Pro Res 422 LT? I know the Apple silicone chips are optimized for Pro Res just not sure how they handle smaller resolutions such as 480i?

Also does Final Cut Pro support 480i and export to H264 as well as MPEG 2?

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I'm fascinated that you would suspect that a computer that can edit something like 12 4K streams of ProRes at full rez in realtime might have issues with a single 480i clip, whether ProRes or not. But especially ProRes. 😄

In other words, no, neither an M1 (or any Mac from the last 10+ years), let alone Final Cut Pro, have any issues with processing such an archaic format. And yes, you can edit 480i natively in Final Cut Pro if need be.

And no, there is no export to (yet another deprecated format) MPEG 2 from FC. You could use any number of 3rd party apps for conversion.
 
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waloshin

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I'm fascinated that you would suspect that a computer that can edit something like 12 4K streams of ProRes at full rez in realtime might have issues with a single 480i clip, whether ProRes or not. But especially ProRes. 😄

In other words, no, neither an M1 (or any Mac from the last 10+ years), let alone Final Cut Pro, have any issues with processing such an archaic format. And yes, you can edit 480i natively in Final Cut Pro if need be.

And no, there is no export to (yet another deprecated format) MPEG 2 from FC. You could use any number of 3rd party apps for conversion.
Being that it is such an archaic resolution as you say… I would imagine the modern computers have not been optimized for such an old small resolution and instead coded for 4K, 8K and 12K… Legacy support is usually the last thing anyone thinks about now day.
 

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Sorry, if I don’t understand the logic. You could make a clip at any given random resolution and it would still play just fine, as long as the codec you were using is supported and you have the needed I/O. Period. Be it 4000 x 4000, 40 x 40, 6829 x 12, 9521 x 3721, or what have you. The one and only limiting factor is the computer’s performance (the aforementioned I/O) and codec. It has never been any different in the history of the Mac. 🤷🏼
 
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waloshin

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Sorry, if I don’t understand the logic. You could make a clip at any given random resolution and it would still play just fine, as long as the codec you were using is supported and you have the needed I/O. Period. Be it 4000 x 4000, 40 x 40, 6829 x 12, 9521 x 3721, or what have you. The one and only limiting factor is the computer’s performance (the aforementioned I/O) and codec. It has never been any different in the history of the Mac. 🤷🏼
The logic is video is progressive now days not interlaced like VHS, and camcorder tapes. I thought maybe the software was not optimized for interlaced legacy footage.
 

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Interlaced formats, which include any and every SD format there is, by the way (there is no such thing as non-interlaced SD), were the broadcast standard for over 70 years and still are to this day, whether still used in major markets or not.

Never mind that there is interlaced HD as well.

Therefore, it obviously makes no sense that any app that considers itself “pro“, but even, if not more so, any consumer app would have any logical reason to stop supporting it. It’s not exactly any particular effort to do. Or do you for some reason think it’s more complicated than 12 streams of 4K? We are one stream is the technical equivalent of over 16 SD streams.

I’m pretty sure you’re overthinking this exponentially.
 
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waloshin

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Interlaced formats, which include any and every SD format there is btw (there is no such thing as non-interlaced SD) were the broadcast standard for over 70 years and still are to this day weather still used in major markets or not.

Never mind that there is interlaced HD as well.

Therefore, it obviously makes no sense that any app that considers itself “pro“, but even, if not more so, any consumer app would have any logical reason to stop supporting it. It’s not exactly any particular effort to do. Or do you for some reason think it’s more complicated than 12 streams of 4K? We are one stream is the technical equivalent of over 16 SD streams.

I have a feeling you’re overthinking this exponentially.
Must be.
 
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