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malibuboats91

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Hi everyone....the firm I work for recently switched to a new system where we need to install MaaS360 on our phones to receive our emails. People I work with said that they can monitor what we do with our phones. Is this true? Would you recommend not installing it? I don't have anything to hide but the fact that they can see what I do or where I go has me a little uneasy. I certainly miss having my work email on my phone though. Any thoughts?
 

malibuboats91

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anubis1980

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we use a similar system at our place, not as intrusive as this one seems perhaps, but for an example we can delete phones when users forget their pin 8 times in a row (happens way too often with them forgetting to tell us In IT so we can catch it before it wipes) it automatically wipes it for security. did it recently to the finance director... oops ha.
 

whadzinaname

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I work for a large company and we have been on MaaS360 for couple of years. The company can configure it for their specific needs. My company can do the following:

1. Erase all data and settings
2. Lock device and remove passcode
3. List configuration profiles
4. Add/remove configuration profiles
5. List provisioning profiles
6. Add/remove provisioning profiles
7. List device information
8. List network information
9. List installed applications
10. List restriction information
11. List security information
12. Apply settings
13. Install and remove applications and data

I can see these right on my phone. Doesn't seem intrusive at all.
 

malibuboats91

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I work for a large company and we have been on MaaS360 for couple of years. The company can configure it for their specific needs. My company can do the following:

1. Erase all data and settings
2. Lock device and remove passcode
3. List configuration profiles
4. Add/remove configuration profiles
5. List provisioning profiles
6. Add/remove provisioning profiles
7. List device information
8. List network information
9. List installed applications
10. List restriction information
11. List security information
12. Apply settings
13. Install and remove applications and data

I can see these right on my phone. Doesn't seem intrusive at all.
Are you being sarcastic? Sounds pretty intrusive to me.
 

whadzinaname

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I am not being sarcastic. They cannot see my location nor read any actual content on the devices including how I use the apps and what times I use the phone/internet. They can see basic information on the device, which am fine with. They use these rights to erase devices when people leave the company and troubleshoot problems. This is WAY less intrusive than corporate Blackberry service where all traffic has to flow through the company's network. We've had this for over 3 years and I use my iPhone every way I feel like using.
 

malibuboats91

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I am not being sarcastic. They cannot see my location nor read any actual content on the devices including how I use the apps and what times I use the phone/internet. They can see basic information on the device, which am fine with. They use these rights to erase devices when people leave the company and troubleshoot problems. This is WAY less intrusive than corporate Blackberry service where all traffic has to flow through the company's network. We've had this for over 3 years and I use my iPhone every way I feel like using.
I guess that's true. The main reason I want it on my phone is so my work calendar sinks to my phone. I like being able to know meeting locations, etc without turning on my laptop. Thanks!
 

whadzinaname

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Install the profile and see what rights they have reserved for themselves. Should give you a clear idea. Delete it if you don't like it.

If it's just the calendar you care about, there were couple of calendar sync programs that could do the sync for you, but it's not real time. They would sync when your PC is on. It's not good if you have confidential stuff on your calendars.
 

noanker

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Have them issue you a work mobile so that you don't have to utilize your personal. This way they can potentially snoop as they please, if so inclined. With other program, such as Good for Enterprise, the admin has somewhat similar capabilities as MaaS360.
 

onepoint

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I work for a large bank that utilizes MaaS360. Here's the list:

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Oh, and they stopped reimbursing us a few years ago for minute/data usage.

Thankfully I'm an at-will employee, so if I don't like it, I don't have to use it. And they can simply fire me.

:)
 

noanker

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I work for a large bank that utilizes MaaS360. Here's the list:

View attachment 639951

Oh, and they stopped reimbursing us a few years ago for minute/data usage.

Thankfully I'm an at-will employee, so if I don't like it, I don't have to use it. And they can simply fire me.

:)

Man, that's too much access for a personal phone, in my opinion. And I'm going to guess your employer has no policy or statement regarding what and under what circumstances they can access any personal information on your phone. Or if they can only remote wipe the app from your phone or if it wipes the entire phone. But I'll bet they made you sign some policy regarding accessing their systems.

And I'm sure you know that being at-will you can also tell them to stick their app up their Maas360;)

I wish American workers would collectively push back more when it comes to receiving this kind of treatment from their employers. I'm sure you'd have legal recourse if they fired you because you wouldn't install their app on your personal phone.
 

malibuboats91

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I'm definitely not putting it on mine. It's not required, but nice to have since I'm out of the office at clients frequently. Thanks for the help!
 

onepoint

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Man, that's too much access for a personal phone, in my opinion. And I'm going to guess your employer has no policy or statement regarding what and under what circumstances they can access any personal information on your phone. Or if they can only remote wipe the app from your phone or if it wipes the entire phone. But I'll bet they made you sign some policy regarding accessing their systems.

And I'm sure you know that being at-will you can also tell them to stick their app up their Maas360;)

I wish American workers would collectively push back more when it comes to receiving this kind of treatment from their employers. I'm sure you'd have legal recourse if they fired you because you wouldn't install their app on your personal phone.
Agreed on all points - I just shot off an email asking for the location of company policy/procedure regarding the permissions and use thereof. I have a good friend in our IT group that likes to stir things up on occasion.

Previously, I at least received a $50/mo reimbursement for using my personal device to access and complete work
(phone+data) remotely. That disappeared not long before they lowered the approved personal vehicle mileage reimbursement rate from the IRS-set standard of $.54/mi to $.50/mi in light of "competitive practices and lower fuel costs." :rolleyes:
 

noanker

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Agreed on all points - I just shot off an email asking for the location of company policy/procedure regarding the permissions and use thereof. I have a good friend in our IT group that likes to stir things up on occasion.

Previously, I at least received a $50/mo reimbursement for using my personal device to access and complete work
(phone+data) remotely. That disappeared not long before they lowered the approved personal vehicle mileage reimbursement rate from the IRS-set standard of $.54/mi to $.50/mi in light of "competitive practices and lower fuel costs." :rolleyes:

I've worked in the financial field before, so I empathize with the pain you feel. Financial firms tend to be egregiously parsimonious when it comes to cutbacks.

Hopefully you can get an answer from HR if such a policy exists. Sadly, HR's primary job is to protect the company from their employees, they're not 'on your side' or an advocate for you. I have that on good authority from multiple friends who are HR employees that hold SPHR & SHRM certifications. But then you probably know that...;)
 
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onepoint

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I've worked in the financial field before, so I empathize with the pain you feel. Financial firms tend to be egregiously parsimonious when it comes to cutbacks.

Hopefully you can get an answer from HR if such a policy exists. Sadly, HR's primary job is to protect the company from their employees, they're not 'on your side' or an advocate for you. I have that on good authority from multiple friends who are HR employees that hold SPHR & SHRM certifications. But then you probably know that...;)
Absolutely! The friend in IT recently joined the bank from the Attorney General's office, where he worked on cyber crime. I think he's still giddy that he can actually question things here in the private sector, and that fixing things actually warrants praise from his higher ups. Weird.
 
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