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kirreip

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I'm putting this in here because there's more than just the Mac Mini:

I know it might be a bit early, especially since the new Mac Mini isn’t out yet, just announced. We also don’t know if the Mini M4 Pro will throttle under load (they could have made the case a bit bigger, honestly…). Still, maybe there are some knowledgeable opinions on this, not necessarily just based on previous Apple Silicon models, but more on a technical sense of what programs benefit most from hardware upgrades.

My wife is a graphic designer. She primarily works with Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign and, though less often, with AfterEffects and Adobe Animate. Right now, she’s still using an iMac 2011 27: i7, SSD, 32GB RAM, and a Quadro k3100m, kept alive with Opencore on Ventura. But it’s clear we need an upgrade, especially since Ventura is likely the last macOS version that will run reasonably well on it (there’s no AVX2 support on the iMac, and it’s increasingly a workaround, plus Adobe programs are also beginning to require AVX2).

So here’s the question: Does she need the M4 Pro, or do you think the M4 will be enough, of coures maxing out the RAM to 32GB? Or maybe both are essential... I know, more is always better. But since budget is a factor, any nuanced perspectives on this? And please, no comments like ‘coming from a 2011 iMac, everything will be faster.’ I know that, but that’s not the point. This is a technical question: For these programs, does a better processor make a significant difference, or can this be neglected or...? Any expert advice would be much appreciated!
 
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leman

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It makes a difference, whether she will notice one is another question. Since she is a professional and likely to work with complex projects, the Pro might make sense.

You can always order both and return one. That’s what’s Apple no questions asked return policy is for.
 

Andrey84

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I have a similar setup: my wife is a UX designer (she was a graphic designer before), and I'm her 'IT guy' :)

I can see your wife is still working on a non-retina display?

I recommend prioritizing getting her a 5K display over thinking about the CPU. Try getting an Apple Studio Display on eBay, or an equivalent with exactly the same resolution, like the LG UltraFine 5K. The Retina iMacs have been available since 2014. I was also late in transitioning my wife to the Retina screen - we've only done it in late 2020. It makes a BIG difference for a graphic designer, especially designing for mobile. There is no going back. You should also consider a nano-textured or a matte display, if she works in a light environment.

Since you're on a budget, if getting a 5K display means you can only afford the basic M4 in the mac mini, so be it. You might even want to consider a used M2 mac mini to save money. Retina screen is much more important for a designer.

After 2 upgrades to the legendary 2009 iMac, my wife now has a fully maxed-out 27" 2020 iMac with a nano-textured screen. She is very happy with it. However, I don't recommend getting an Intel machine now.
 
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wonderings

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She is going to notice a huge difference going to a base M4 chip (not pro) from what she has now. We have a new prepress guy coming in and are going to go with the M4 Mini with 10 core CPU and 10 core GPU with 32 gigs of RAM.
 

Fishrrman

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M4pro -- especially if the Mac is used "for income" and you can write off its purchase as a business expense.
 
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